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LCWRA and transition payment

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john54
john54 Community member Posts: 69 Listener
Hello I'm not sure if someone can answer this query but I was wondering if your entitled to the lower transition payment if you moved on to LCWRA?

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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,103 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2023
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    'The transitional element is a top-up payment available for some people moving from the older legacy benefits system to Universal Credit. It is only added for people who have been ‘managed migrated’ and where they would be entitled to less under Universal Credit than from their current legacy benefits.'


  • john54
    john54 Community member Posts: 69 Listener
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    Hello I received when I moved over 2021 but because I wasn't on LCWRA I received the higher amount I just wondered if I would be entitled to the lower transition payment. I don't know if you know but I thought everyone on sdp JSA going on to UC would have a lcwra assessment? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,119 Disability Gamechanger
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    I see from another thread of yours here https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/109105/review-into-lcwra#latest  that you were recently found to have LCWRA. This means that your Transitional protection which was £285/month when you first claimed UC will now erode completely because the LCWRA is £390.06/month. 
    john54 said:
     I thought everyone on sdp JSA going on to UC would have a lcwra assessment? 
    No, not at all. Claiming SDP and a disability benefit doesn't automatically entitle you to LCWRA.

    What date exactly did you report your health condition/provide a fit note to start the work capability assessment process off?
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • john54
    john54 Community member Posts: 69 Listener
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    Hello Poppy I was awarded LCWRA last month I just wondered if I was entitled to the lower transition payment 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,119 Disability Gamechanger
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    You didn't answer the question i asked here?


    What date exactly did you report your health condition/provide a fit note to start the work capability assessment process off?

    Unless you reported your health condition when you first claimed UC back in 2021 then you will not be entitled to the lower TP.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • john54
    john54 Community member Posts: 69 Listener
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    Ok it's a general question probably best just to wait until DWP to get back to me 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,119 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2023
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    No, you will not be entitled to the lower TP because your existing TP will erode completely now you've been found to have LCWRA. Once a TP erodes completely you will no longer be entitled to any further payments.

    Further information here. https://askcpag.org.uk/content/206411/the-new-transitional-sdp-element please take note of the part in bold here, which was taken from the above link.

    Regulation 55(2) of the UC (TP) Regulations provides for the amount of the transitional element to be the amount it had been in the previous assessment period minus any ‘relevant increases’. A ‘relevant increase’ is an increase in the allowances or elements included in the UC maximum amount (including any included for the first time) apart from the childcare costs element. This means that over time the transitional SDP element will erode, as benefits are uprated or new elements are included in the award, so that it gradually aligns with the amount of UC to which a new claimant would be entitled.


    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.

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