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What's causing the falling birth rate?

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Biblioklept
Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,995 Disability Gamechanger
I have my own thoughts but wondered what other people think? The birth rate across UK is below 'replenishment' rate. Does this concern you and what do you think the causes are of falling birth rate??

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  • honestjon
    honestjon Community member Posts: 173 Pioneering
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    I have my own thoughts but wondered what other people think? The birth rate across UK is below 'replenishment' rate. Does this concern you and what do you think the causes are of falling birth rate??
    Lots of reasons but I think a lot more young ladies these days are aware they are a lot more than a breeding machine and if not enough births are happening then replenishments can be imported when needed 
  • rubin16
    rubin16 Community member, Scope Member Posts: 795 Disability Gamechanger
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    I think also like times have changed from when my grandparents or parents were my age. Like back in them days it was the norm to be married at like 20 and have kids. But nowadays it seems people arn't getting married till later in life and having kids at a later life.
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  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community member Posts: 2,804 Disability Gamechanger
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    I think it's a positive thing.  There are far too many people living in the UK for a small island to maintain now.  The previous rate of growth was not sustainable.

    Fewer people means less pollution.  Fewer cars on the road.  Less electricity & gas used.  Less waste produced for landfill or incineration.  Less farming, fewer animals killed for protein, less land taken over by single species crops which is a disaster for wildlife diversity.  It means less strain on health services, shorter waiting lists, improved access to treatments.  Less strain on housing services, less temporary accommodation, less homelessness, more people living in properties that are suitable for them.

    Overall fewer people should increase the quality of life for those that are here, which is surely what it's all about.
  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 55,893 Disability Gamechanger
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    Finances a woman either has to give up work or pay through the nose for child care, even after school clubs are expensive, especially with more then one child. It's not like it used to be where everyone could live on 1 wage package. 


  • michael57
    michael57 Community member Posts: 355 Pioneering
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    I think it's a positive thing.  There are far too many people living in the UK for a small island to maintain now.  The previous rate of growth was not sustainable.

    Fewer people means less pollution.  Fewer cars on the road.  Less electricity & gas used.  Less waste produced for landfill or incineration.  Less farming, fewer animals killed for protein, less land taken over by single species crops which is a disaster for wildlife diversity.  It means less strain on health services, shorter waiting lists, improved access to treatments.  Less strain on housing services, less temporary accommodation, less homelessness, more people living in properties that are suitable for them.

    Overall fewer people should increase the quality of life for those that are here, which is surely what it's all about.
    while i 100% agree with you how long do we have to wait to see the benefits and a change in this countries  situation fewer people means higher utility bills higher produce bills the list goes on  
  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 3,700 Disability Gamechanger
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    From what I know as someone who just turned 30. Many people my age who want kids just can't afford it yet. It takes too long to get to the "comfortable" stage now. It's really mostly financial.

    I also don't disagree that it's not entirely a bad thing for population to naturally decline (from old age) over time. We cannot keep increasing population indefinitely while we have just this Earth to live on. 
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  • michael57
    michael57 Community member Posts: 355 Pioneering
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    From what I know as someone who just turned 30. Many people my age who want kids just can't afford it yet. It takes too long to get to the "comfortable" stage now. It's really mostly financial.

    I also don't disagree that it's not entirely a bad thing for population to naturally decline (from old age) over time. We cannot keep increasing population indefinitely while we have just this Earth to live on. 
    ah but that is one of the problems people are living longer nowadays and having longer in retirement than the years they worked back in my day we would leave school at 13 nowadays its a fair bit higher so you have to work till a higher age to get your pension i am glad i am at my age rather than yours i have to say 
  • kimkenzie202
    kimkenzie202 Community member Posts: 112 Courageous
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    It's getting expensive for people to have children, if a relationship fails it usually means one income supporting children, then childcare costs on top, claiming benefits usually requires having to both work(even for a couple). There isn't really an option for someone to be a stay at home parent(for children above toddler age)anymore unless your partner has a decent income. 
  • JW77
    JW77 Community member Posts: 45 Pioneering
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    Many things have already been mentioned. I’m conserved for my great nephew, and my friend who’s just having another child.
    apart from the financial cost and personal choice. In the uk overall we have better access to birth control. 
    On the other hand I think we are all exposed to a traces of unwanted chemical’s that can affect fertility, through food and environment.
    extreme climate also affects fertility in men and women.
    As a species we cannot sustain exponential growth. 
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  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 12,133 Disability Gamechanger
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    It could be that benefits for children are now limited to two, and the COL crisis has made people think before starting a family, also modern contraception e.g an implant that last 3 years and of course the morning after pill.

    And dare I say it's no longer the passport to getting a council house as there are non to spare.

    I don't think it's a big problem right now but if the birth rate continues to fall for another 20 years there will be a change in the ratio workers v pensioners that will start to be an issue.

    I don't for a nano second buy into the theory that we have no room left as only 8.7% of the UK is populated so there's lots of room left.
    And I hope that no one dives in and blames immigrants/assylum seekers as that would be nothing but racist.

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 634 Pioneering
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    An increasing number of women are opting to delay starting families, with personal and professional reasons serving as the primary motivators for this decision. These reasons may include career advancement, achieving financial stability, and other personal objectives. The availability and advancements in fertility treatments have made it more feasible for women to pursue this path, enabling them to access assisted reproductive technologies that allow them to conceive and bear children at a significantly older age than their predecessors

    The birth rate in the UK has been declining, yet the population is continuing to grow. This paradox can be attributed to several factors, including increased life expectancy and immigration. To accommodate the needs of an expanding population, it is essential that governments prioritise planning for more infrastructure, such as housing, transportation, and healthcare facilities. This will help ensure that the needs of current and future generations are met, and that the UK remains a thriving and prosperous nation.

  • SeasideAnne
    SeasideAnne Scope Member Posts: 18 Courageous
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    Although we tend to think that life expectancy will continue to increase, which would put more pressure on services as the years go by, and falling birth rates mean that we wouldn't have as large a young population coming along to pay taxes etc, what I'm reading is that life expectancy has been more or less plateauing now for a while and is probably declining. My mother (who was healthy) lived to be almost 105. She was from a generation that ate cleaner food and breathed cleaner air (in the main). Things are different today. Apparently people born in 2020 were expected to live to 93 years in a 2010-based projection. Now though they are expected to live to just 89 years in a 2020-based projection – which is lower than in the 2002-based projections. There are many reasons for this, but it looks like the population is going to begin to shrink, little by little. Whether that is a good thing or not depends on your point of view. I know I won't live anywhere near as long as my mum, even though her mum lived to be 98, which was very old in those days, and my family as a whole has loved longer than average. But I have several health conditions (MS being one) that may limit my health. Also I live in the north of the country and we in the north have a shorter life expectancy than those who live in the south. I don't know whether the birth rate varies much by region, but it would very interesting to find out.
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