Green Paper Discussion – Have you responded yet?

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,040 Championing

    Hi everyone.

    I have just managed to complete my pip reassessment form.

    I feel exhausted from it.

    Tommorrow I am going to write an additional letter as there wasn't enough room on the form and I am going to go into a lot more detail about how my disabilities affect me.

    I have plenty of supporting evidence to submit with my claim but that never stopped them from reducing my award at my last two reassessment and I won it back at mandatory reconsideration.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    yes he has said it , I think if I remember correctly he he said he worked in the fraud department.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering

    Thank you secretsquirrel, I must have missed it lol, doesn't take much to frazzle this brain 😁

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering
    edited May 6

    @Holly_Scope, is there any chance you could include the Benefits and Work news article ( re Pension age PIP claimants, in this discussion please or maybe pin it. I think its very important that folk, of a certain age like myself, read it and they miss it if its left in the closed thread. I tried to bring it over but failed miserably. Thank you ☺️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing
  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 157 Empowering

    From what I have read on Benefits and work the online consultation didn’t happen due to no one being able to connect to the meeting.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering

    Shocking, absolutely abysmal behaviour by DWP, the Benefits and Work news article shows what a shambles the whole consultation is.

  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    My Lcwra does not state if I was deemed a substantial risk. Am I to take it that they don't view me as substantial risk? And if so, is this a good thing or bad thing in light of the new welfare proposals?

    Also, do we have any hope left of a U turn on the cuts? I need some hope, I'm at my wits end now.

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 11,363 Championing
  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering

    There is always hope anon, keep your chin up ☺️

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 296 Pioneering

    "My Lcwra does not state if I was deemed a substantial risk. Am I to take it that they don't view me as substantial risk? And if so, is this a good thing or bad thing in light of the new welfare proposals?"

    No one can give you an accurate yes or no answer on this.

    Your report might not show that you were awarded LCWRA on the basis of "Substantial Risk", but who knows what the decision maker has scribbled in your file on their computer system. Decision makers, who don't even have a shred of medical expertise, downgrade claimants and scribble what they feel like in the files of claimants, and this is what counts later on and not what the health professional wrote in.

     There have been well documented cases where DWP decision-makers have made decisions that contradict or downgrade claimants' assessments provided by healthcare professionals. Google it to read it for yourself.

    From the damn green paper, at this moment, the only difference is that claimants on "Substantial Risk" would be reassessed in priority.

    "Also, do we have any hope left of a U turn on the cuts? I need some hope, I'm at my wits end now."

    Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,037 Championing

    Disability talk with Steve on YouTube has a new video about an article in The Canary regarding DWP whistleblowers who say they’ve quietly changed the access to work scheme. The government are again saving money by making employers liable for equipment disabled workers may need. This proves the whole reason for pip cuts is cost cutting. Surely if this comes into law it can be challenged?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,040 Championing

    I have no idea if I am " substantial risk".

    My report states

    "Given her long standing history, the previous specialist input and progression of her symptoms a longer prognosis seems to apply".

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,834 Championing

    Please find the link about those of pension age from Benefits and Works website that @Loulou82xx kindly provided earlier @mrsBB : https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/help-us-get-the-truth-on-pension-age-pip

    Perhaps Holly or a member of Scope's Online community could give a direct link to the Govt's Green Paper in the first post here again (& accessible formats): https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67d84aa179f0d993dfb11f97/pathways-to-work.pdf

    May I ask when the following occurs:

    30 Labour MPs have scheduled meetings with us about how they can act against benefit cuts in Parliament. Campaigners can still invite their MP to meet with us during the consultation period.

    And also about green paper consultation action which campaigners have been completing. This helps the Government to understand the real impact of making it harder to claim PIP. - is this something different that we can respond to?

    Also the links that you give at the end of this as a seeming alternative seem a bit back to front as the first link is to the questions, but surely members need to read the Green Paper first in order to answer these questions? As another alternative, & I'm not the first to feel the same, this so-called 'consultation' isn't actually consulting on some of the measures that are important to many in our community, so I'd like to ask you to provide the email link so that members might consider using that instead of responding directly to the Govt's Green Paper:

    Consultation.pathwaystowork@dwp.gov.uk -sorry can't make this into a hyperlink, but you can click on it here if you scroll down to 'Ways to respond' : https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

    Thank you for any help in this matter.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 296 Pioneering

    That's what the health professional who had assessed you wrote in your report. You don't know what the decision maker of the DWP scribbled in your records.

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) provides undisclosed guidelines and instructions to its decision makers. 

    Although some guidance is made available publicly, such as the "Advice for decision making" (ADM) collection, other internal guidance, such as "DMG" (Decision Makers Guide) and "Decision Makers Guide to Waiver," have never been published to date. 

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,040 Championing

    Thank you so the only way to find out is to ask the dwp

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 296 Pioneering

    I believe so.

    You can inquire with the DWP to find out whether your Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) award was based on substantial risk. 

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,774 Championing

    Someone put up article substantial risk is for lcw ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,774 Championing

    I phoned esa the caller had no idea of substantial risk