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£20 uplift court case

woodbine
woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,632 Disability Gamechanger
Many of you will know that when the UC uplift of £20 per week was brought in last year some people on legacy benefits mainly ESA did not get the £20.
A court case to get this payment is ongoing this week and expected  to conclude tomorrow, if the high court ruling goes in our favour then many of us will be owed £1500 (approx), that is of course if the DWP don't appeal a successful decision.

We await the judges decision.
I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.

Comments

  • Grinchy
    Grinchy Member Posts: 486 Pioneering
    Be nice if it went in our favour, surely the case is right and we all should have gotten the uplift, see what happens

  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 7,797 Disability Gamechanger
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Member Posts: 199 Pioneering
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
    Exactly! They'll pay us the full £1.5K upfront
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 7,797 Disability Gamechanger
    Prepare yourself for disappointment of that’s your level of expectation.
  • TheAlien
    TheAlien Member Posts: 104 Pioneering
    I think we'll be doing well if we get £1,000, and they won't pay it out quickly either.
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,632 Disability Gamechanger
    If they are forced to pay then for those affected it will be the full £1560, my suspicion is that if the DWP lose they will appeal and appeal and appeal, they have a history of doing exactly that.
    I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Member Posts: 199 Pioneering
    I think I will get my money. Show me the money!
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 7,797 Disability Gamechanger
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
    Worth posting again perhaps. The chances of a win are unknown. The chances of a win being anything other than phyrric are also low. At best this is likely to be a win in name only.
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Member Posts: 199 Pioneering
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
    Worth posting again perhaps. The chances of a win are unknown. The chances of a win being anything other than phyrric are also low. At best this is likely to be a win in name only.
    I respectfully disagree
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 24,725 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm a legacy benefit claimant myself but to be honest, i'm not expecting to receive any money backdated for this.
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 7,797 Disability Gamechanger
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
    Worth posting again perhaps. The chances of a win are unknown. The chances of a win being anything other than phyrric are also low. At best this is likely to be a win in name only.
    I respectfully disagree
    Feel free. I’m in weekly contact with one of the parties to the case and we’ve had a couple of long chats about it. Phyrric victory is the phrase being banded about.
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Member Posts: 199 Pioneering
    Not sure too many people understand the case. The simplistic version is “they got £20pw. We want £20pw.”

    A great theory but even if discrimination is held to be found it’s then up to the government to respond and that response won’t automatically be “okay we give in here’s £20pw”. Far from it. 
    Worth posting again perhaps. The chances of a win are unknown. The chances of a win being anything other than phyrric are also low. At best this is likely to be a win in name only.
    I respectfully disagree
    Feel free. I’m in weekly contact with one of the parties to the case and we’ve had a couple of long chats about it. Phyrric victory is the phrase being banded about.
    If money does get backdated to everyone can I have half of yours?
  • Libby_Scope
    Libby_Scope Posts: 157 Courageous

    Hi all,

    Please can we all be reminded that, when sharing opinions about the UC uplift, we respect one another's views, and to be mindful of making light-hearted comments that could be easily misread.

    Out of interest, what result would everyone like to see if the court case were to be found unlawful?

    Thank you :) 

    Libby

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  • TheAlien
    TheAlien Member Posts: 104 Pioneering
    @Libby_Scope personally if we won the case, I'd like all the money we should have received paid in full and a public apology.  But I know that this is wishful thinking.
  • tcellmutation
    tcellmutation Member Posts: 199 Pioneering
    World cost the government billions of pounds in backpay wouldn't it?

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