Pip Assessors Report . Review the claim again in ? years .
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thanks, wildlife you just give me the idea yes prob better to hand it over first and se the reaction an honest assessor will cary on with acesmant a lier will pack up and leave and a solicitors letter is from 25to 50quid so is worth every penny as long as we remember these people are not gov employees but working for private companywildlife said:@maid08 Thanks for the ideas about stopping the lies. You've given me and hopefully others a good idea about the solicitors letter. OK you have to pay for the letter but if it get's you the right benefit it will be paid back many times over and the saving in stress will be huge. I would hand the letter over at the beginning as all the online tick boxes have been done by the end and the truth will have to be what the assessor then remembers rather than recording it as it's given to them.
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i doubt the use of a sollicitors letter would be of benefit
it is not evidence
if given at the start the HCP may decide that you are being uncooperative and stop the assessment
they do not have to accept it at the end
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and im sure if the intention to lose you benifits that will put a burdon on hp even if told to alter by capita or atos after all sueing hp will be easy a judge will make them attend court and want answers to how they can diagnose someone by sight and when they have no qualification in problem given ???what can they say apart from admit defeat and face paying my 6000 loss to date plus reminder of award im due ??i have in the past taken cars and household goods from peaple puling a fast one so wont feel sory for hp at all
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@CockneyRebel I do understand what you are saying but firstly can I mention that as you have not had a bad decision made by the DWP which came about because of the dishonesty of an assessor it may be difficult to understand why those of us who have feel so desperate to not want this to happen to us again. I have had a life time of problems to sort out after bringing up two disabled boys in the days when their disabilities weren't recognized. I have also looked after all the affairs for elderly relatives and worked as and been a carer myself. Sticking to the rules which requires a certain amount of backing down on the part of the claimant is not always the best way to deal with the benefit system. If I'd done that I would have now been on standard PIP for both components and would be feeling doubly hard done by as I managed to increase my mobility to what it should have been had the assessor not lied. I'm not sure what is the best way to let an assessor know that I am not going to put up with lies written about me last year. However by the time I am reviewed, when I will be saying certain new conditions have appeared and other things have got worse, I will be doing just that!
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@maid08 I know how you feel but please be careful and think through what you are going to do. A woman has just won a court case against an assessor for the lies told about her but CockneyRebel is probably right about how the assessor will react to a letter being given and does not have to accept it. So I take back what I said but it's up to you. Maybe less obvious ways of safeguarding against having incorrect things written about you would be better than being openly confrontational.
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hi wildlife nope they do not have to accept it they can just walk out but remmber taped filmed not rude not angry just ask polite please read before we start if they then leave they were liers so u lost nothing if honest there is no problem one thing i will point out my helper will be a district judge who i used to spend weekends with he loverly chap bet they wont claim he a lier as they would me
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strange it seems they instill fear in what they might do but think they can do it freely when cought out atos capita say they been sacked thats to protect them not us
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@maid08 OK well you've got the right people supporting you so good luck and please let us know how you get on.
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today i have sat and listened to a judge that judge states a transcripted page done by a soliciter can and should be used because if from previous dealings with a private company you have suffered loss and that company seems intent on creating further loss and you can prove so ??i can on previous dealings then a court or tribunal will acept it as its evidance in youer case appeal or claim im sory but giveing the things you say should be done was done with same result nothing??this time i will fight so its not and why should we be honest when the other side will not be complaining to relivant controling body is useles thats been proven and being delt with by gov department or mp as to last comment pip acessmant will be dead no its not as you can put in again for same benifit with new illness starting the wj hole farce over again BUT knowing by then just how stacked it is against you so can be just as clever and under hand as capita atos or dwpUsername_removed said:Not true that covert recordings are routinely accepted by tribunals. One media story about an appeal where such evidence was accepted but no evidence it even influenced the final outcome.
A solicitors letter to a HCP is a potentially dangerous strategy. Firstly it’s just a letter before action and you don’t need a solicitor to do that. Secondly, there’s no action. You have no decision; no assessment; no evidence of wrongdoing; no financial loss. Thirdly the HCP will not walk away. They will decline to accept you dictating terms and unless you agree to go ahead they’ll treat you as a failure to attend and DWP will likely sanction you. Challenging that sanction could take 18 months or more (if you have to go to UT) and if you fail then your PIP claim is dead and you’ve not even had the assessment.
Far better to be clear which points you ought to score and why; what you’re supporting evidence is and then, if you’re not happy with the outcome you have the options of
- MR and appeal for the decision.
- complaint to assessment provider if guidance breached.
- complaint to the relevant professional body for the HCP if misconduct etc. can be demonstrated.
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prob with us is being honest and thinking we are dealing with honest peaple we are not we are dealing with cash hungry fake peaple intent on that new car or house or luxuary life on a wage we could not dream about payed by gov we are told over and over any false claims will result in prosecution for fraud yet peaple working for latrge lump of cash per day are falsey ing claims to harm us for being honest without fear of prosecution ??? thats acessers AND mike you cannot tell acessers what points or anything else you can only give how you are day to day but that bit is ignored confirmation from dwp no docters consultandts paperwork no use we use an opinion to make our decision that comes from a medical profeshinol and if need be i can demand copys of calls as each i rung noted time date and person on line calls in are recorded calls out from dwp are not althogh most staff think nothing is recorded but it is
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just a note on what you said 1 i know what i should have goten a know how much lies cost me i know my pip will stop straight after acessmant and how much it will cost me i also know three consultants were gobsmacked at last acessmants results and i aldso know why i had last one looked at dispite mr failing purely as the daft dm sighned my papers her mistake meant i was able to point out i could and would take her to court she then relooked at my case rung on a sat morning exsplaing she had awaerded enought points for both lower is that satisfactory to me ??now after all the hassel lies from them till that time i had a sress related stroke so i think i know its fight or stop instead of listening to peaple on here who prob had it easy refering to youer comment half won't know what points or a mount they lost should have sorry if this affends but a walefare rights person told me that yes you need medical documants and consultants and any evidance that helps dm make his decision ??all wrong i have it in writeing from dwp they use only acessers report as a fully qualified medical profesinol and there is no point in this advice it is a complete waste of timeUsername_removed said:Oh and at no point am I telling anyone not to fight. I’m using my experience as a WRO to explain what the correct battles are. The ones you can win.
- complaint to assessment provider if guidance breached.
- complaint to the relevant professional body for the HCP if misconduct etc. can be demonstrated.
Read more at https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/40571/pip-assessors-report-review-the-claim-again-in-years#QEFGd76Bsm4MVp1X.99
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i keep all documants and send copys or vice verus so im able to point out what is sense or not acesmant provider capiyta ? both acessers unreg indeed one claimed not known or working for them ??complaint recaived same reply all are profesinol working under dwp lines ?? complain to dwp ? but you are employed by dwp acessers employed by you so you are responcible reply all are qualified ??? but hang on this report completed and sighned by youer acesser ?we do not employ them no idea who they are last comment they may not nbe in country anymore duhhhh yep do it properly till you crack up
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I got pip in 2016 and had my assessment with Astor my assor was a nurse I got standered rate care from DLA low care high mobility
I have got pip for 3 years as my condions could change I have siaciter and I fall all the time siaciter will never get better only get worse I been have ithrits in my knees and little grip in my fingers...its says in my report
Can't use my aims very well or hold anything for long time
I got 4 points for upper body but nothing for lower body even it says in report I need help with lower body got 2 points for prepare or cook a meal cant even old a pan washing a bathing 3 points and only 4 point for moving around on mobilty part.....i did put in for a reconstruction but it never changed I still get the standered rate care
I hope I'm one of the cases with all other cases what gets looked at again with the courts taking DWP for wrongly being assisted.....
Thank You
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kass said:I got pip in 2016 and had my assessment with Astor my assor was a nurse I got standered rate care from DLA low care high mobility
I have got pip for 3 years as my condions could change I have siaciter and I fall all the time siaciter will never get better only get worse I been have ithrits in my knees and little grip in my fingers...its says in my report
Can't use my aims very well or hold anything for long time
I got 4 points for upper body but nothing for lower body even it says in report I need help with lower body got 2 points for prepare or cook a meal cant even old a pan washing a bathing 3 points and only 4 point for moving around on mobilty part.....i did put in for a reconstruction but it never changed I still get the standered rate care
I hope I'm one of the cases with all other cases what gets looked at again with the courts taking DWP for wrongly being assisted.....
Thank You
hi kass i do not think they will be looking at anything other than traveling or planing a journey ?? i had 8 for mobility nothing for journy acesser said i could plan and do without a prob which is a lie as my form stated i could not nor should i concider it as to rest of youer claim i got nil upper body nil lower nil bathing although cant lift legs into bath cant cook full stop its done for me my grip at time of acessmant was nil due to stroke but she said i picked aup a bit paper no prob ???but try not to worry about youer this early they will contact you later in the year for review and hopefully you will fly thru it
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When I went for my assessment my sister came with me as I have athrits is my knees they give in some times and I'm scared to go out alone in case I fall by this was not said in my report my condition is going to get worse and when it do i have to do a change in how my condition effects me I'm scared if case they stop my pip all together
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please do not worry about it you have a fair while till they send you a review letter then just deal with it then i upset them so are acting mean but as long as you deal with fact it should be finekass said:When I went for my assessment my sister came with me as I have athrits is my knees they give in some times and I'm scared to go out alone in case I fall by this was not said in my report my condition is going to get worse and when it do i have to do a change in how my condition effects me I'm scared if case they stop my pip all together
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please dont panic it will be fine they will send you a review leter then you can see docter get letter and show acesser but worry wont help you now xxxxxkass said:When I went for my assessment my sister came with me as I have athrits is my knees they give in some times and I'm scared to go out alone in case I fall by this was not said in my report my condition is going to get worse and when it do i have to do a change in how my condition effects me I'm scared if case they stop my pip all together -
Thank you for your reply
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I did fall my legs give in I have doctor report my leg swollen and my back
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