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New pip review form and no new evidence to send

angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
Hi, my son is autistic and also suffers from suicidal ideation, self harm ,anxiety and depression, he's 28 now, he was put on pip enhanced daily living for two years and his review form needs to be in by 25th, I'm his appointee and as there's been no change that's what I will be ticking, problem is he has had no help from mental health services since he finished his psychology last year and they have already seen the letter his psychologist wrote, so now we have nothing to send, I've spent weeks trying to get help but cab is full and can't help ,time is running out ,can anyone help with some advice please 


  • lindadeniselindadenise Member Posts: 302 Pioneering
    I sent in a letter from my daughter who comes everyday to help me and she put how my illnesses affect me on a daily basis.
  • markyboymarkyboy Member Posts: 368 Pioneering
    You do not need to get new medical letters every time you have a review just tick no change 
    The DWP do not tend to base there decision on medical evidence alone it's all about how you answer the questions from the assessor and how your disability affects your daily life
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    Thanks everyone ,so I'm guessing he will have to have another assessment am I right 
  • lindadeniselindadenise Member Posts: 302 Pioneering
    Yes it is possible.
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    Good luck
    I am a fibro warrior !💜♏️
  • sleepy1sleepy1 Member Posts: 299 Pioneering
    Hi @angnryan, my advice would be to add on the review form why you are unable to provide further medical evidence (like what you have explained above) and ask them to look at all the evidence previously sent and do they require you to submit all the same evidence again.

    If you have not already done so you can call them and ask for more time to send back the form stating you are seeking advice.  They usually grant 2 extra weeks, which may give you more time to get the advice you need.

    Perhaps you could get some help from the Autistic Society.


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You can keep a diary about how his condition affects him daily, and write a letter of support explaining how much help he needs from you.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • lillybellelillybelle Member Posts: 469 Pioneering
    Don’t just right no change.
    go into a little more detail.
    i would send another copy of the previous letter in case it’s been lost. Ask your GP if he would write a letter verifying this. That should be enough
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    Thanks everyone, I'm out of my mind with worry, I have anxiety and depression too although I'm only on carers allowance and income support, looking after Ryan alone for the past 28 years have really taken its toll, and dealing with the pip feels like the last straw, I'm taking him the doctor today to ask for a letter but it is highly unlikely I will get it before the form needs to be sent off, I will keep you all posted and thanks again for all your help everyone 
  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering
    angnryan  Hope all works out well for you and your son, you sure do have a lot to contend with on a daily basis with your own anxiety and depression too and im sure as you say dealing with the pip feels like the last straw, People with ongoing life time diagnoses shouldn't have to keep  re applying. Even Tersa May said this!

  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @angnryan, I'm so sorry to hear that you're having to deal with this on top of everything else. Do you have any support for yourself as a carer? 
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    No I don't have any support, I'm a single parent, so all my time is spent on looking after Ryan, thanks for reply 
  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @angnryan, you may like to consider visiting the Carers UK website and perhaps getting in touch with them to see if they can offer any practical support or advice. It's important to look after yourself too!
  • april123april123 Member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Be careful asking for private doctors letter, sent request Friday and paid £40+and was cheaking today that it had been passed to doc , to be told a letter was sent out to you today we need another yes another £40+ pound before we can continue because of amount of work involved. I requested letter and advised what I needed to cover and put tick list template in as well. So it must of counted as 2 things wanted.
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    I went to the docs appointment today with my son who was extremely anxious to ask for a letter only to be told ,sorry but ryans doctor is on holiday for two weeks, so why did they make the appointment for today!!  So no letter and form due be posted Wed, unbelievable 
  • lindadeniselindadenise Member Posts: 302 Pioneering
    Ask another Doctor to write a leyter they have all the information on there system or just send form and put a note to say more information to be forwarded asap.
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    The other doctor is awful very unhelpful, I got another appointment in two weeks time when ryans doctor is back but by then the form will be at DWP, I will just have to save whatever letter I can get in two weeks time in case they send him for another f2f, praying they don't though, it's caused both of us enough stress already 
  • lindadeniselindadenise Member Posts: 302 Pioneering
    Good luck i know its really stressful i am at the Mandatory Reconsideration stage i dont feel confident tbh. 
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    I hope things turn out well for you 
  • angnryanangnryan Member Posts: 50 Connected
    Was yours a review or a renewal 
  • keirakeira Member Posts: 136 Courageous
    @ilovecats Can I ask what your advice would be in these situations, where a person has no new evidence to send with their new PIP2 form as everything is the same as before?
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,314 Pioneering
    @angnryan I'm in a similar situation to you. I'm appointee to my son and he's just had a face to face assessment to review his ESA. I didn't have any new evidence but just sent the old stuff as he won't engage with Dr's or anyone except his Dad. Don't worry the assessor he had was very nice according to MOH who went with him and it didn't matter that there wasn't any new evidence so long as you say why as someone else has mentioned. Every case is different and for life long disabilities you can't keep getting new evidence. It must be so hard dealing with all this on your own X
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