Confused about about the assesses report saying because I drive I can get in and out of a bath

Surely, is it not the robotic software that HCP's uuse (called PIPAT) which brings about these ludicrous connections? It would appear that HCP's don't even read the garbage which the software seems to spew out; i.e. do a common sense review of the outcome that the software produces.  

I had read somewhere that you can ask to see what the HCP has written on the same day as a F2F and will be sent to Case Manager. Is this true? 

lol But, surely this is a serious point. If it is a 'right' that a claimant has (i.e to see what's written) then there must be a procedure somewhere that says this -  I don't see it in the fictional pip assessment guide. If it is a 'right' then surely one can ask for it before the assessment. The HCP are i understand mainly self employed and paid on piece work, so in reality they can, or should, be easily over-ruled with a bit of forward planning.  

I will look into this and establish the legal position. It must happen sometimes otherwise why is it being discussed !? 

I was SO glad to hear they are considering doing a trial of video recording these assessments. it will stop a lot of the lies and possibly a lot of MR's/ tribunerals also!

@cristobal well you would like to think so - but maybe not! - I am glad you did - did they still try and lie their arses off? 

Capita/ATOS do many things - ALL of them very poorly

It would appear that there are occasions (possibly many) where a HCP has not accurately logged a claimant's conditions and how their condition affects them in respect of specific PIP activities, most likely due to the limitations of the flawed software that HCP's use.

Say for example a claimant has only 4 daily living activities which are relevant to their circumstances. What would happen if a claimant pro-actively and assertively asks the HCP to confirm they have read in full the details of what has been read in this regard on the PIP form, and discuss that key aspect, as the interpretation thereof is what should justify the number of descriptor points scored. 

If the HCP has not adequately read the form (that can be determined by some simple questioning) then the claimant can surely pass them a copy of the relevant sections of the form and make sure it is read there and then. 

Yes, this may be a bit assertive, but if HCP's are not reading (or not adequately reading) what's written on the forms and merely relying on the software then that surely cannot be right . 

Finally I have a 2 way recording system which I plan to take in to my sister's assessment and record fact that such queries have been raised. 

Any thoughts? 

robt1066 said:

Finally I have a 2 way recording system which I plan to take in to my sister's assessment and record fact that such queries have been raised. 

Any thoughts? 

Your sister will need to ring the health assessment providers before the day of the assessment to tell them that she'll be recording the assessment. You will need to use the appropriate recording devices such as CD/cassette and record 2 copies, handing 1 copy in at the end of the assessment.