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How worried are you about the Coronavirus?

66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
edited March 2020 in Coffee lounge
[POLL]

How worried are you about the Coronavirus? 28 votes

Not at all
17%
Topkittentommkevin52Adventiumoakridge 5 votes
Mildly
39%
exdvrApril2018momwoodbineMsbettyboopvikingqueenEricaMcD66MustangLouiseHcookie80anistycazfox77 11 votes
Quite
21%
misstraceyOverlyAnxiousBrightsidebecsneuromum4ShaunHMegk 6 votes
Very
21%
popiwavedancerAmi2301gaz1960CressidaJenCo 6 votes
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  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    Just trying to gauge whether people think it is all hyped up in the news or whether they are really worried about it.

    Thanks for voting.
  • CressidaCressida Member Posts: 688 Pioneering
    Very
    I am very concerned.  I work in a hospital with doctors who have relatives working in Italian hospitals. If you are Italian and over 65 just hope you dont get the virus as there are not enough ventilators to cope with the demand. Those poor doctors are having to make difficult clinical decisions. We should be learning from them. A lot of people have their heads in the sand and no comprehension of how serious this is. I also take immunosuppressant drugs so am in a vulnerable group so will be working from home for the foreseeable future. Keep safe everyone.
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2020
    Mildly
    Very interesting to hear a perspective from someone in your position Cressida - thanks for the post. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 2,915 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    I'm following the story with interest, my attitude is "if i get it I get it" but its the potential financial chaos that interest me as well, as an example the day that covid19 hit the UK and before the FTSE started to tank I moved my biggest pension fund into cash, as I intend to cash it in this year I didnt want it exposed and it seems I did the right thing. I suspect that a number of airlines will go to the wall and that the days of cheap air travel are numbered, we were shopping in Tesco's today and whole isles were almost empty. When people get the message that social isolation is the best idea can you imagine how quiet the shops will be?

    I hope we all stay safe, and if you can make sure your elderly neighbours/relatives are ok.
  • BrightsidebecsBrightsidebecs Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 88 Pioneering
    Quite
    Hi I know @Chloe_Scope did this earlier in the week but some new information has been added about the virus so thought I’d share! https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

    I hope everyone stays safe and that we can look out for one another and our elderly friends/relatives. 

    @Brightsidebecs

    One of the community champions here 😊
    Rebecca 
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2020
    Mildly
    I didn’t realise this had already been done - I did have a look before posting but couldn’t find anything - sorry!

    woodbine - my attitude is honestly similar to yours. I think eventually we will all be exposed to it so when it happens doesn’t matter - if I get it sooner or later then so be it. I have OCD so I have (too!) good hygiene practise already. Not much else that I can do at this point. 

    As someone who used to have severe contamination OCD, and still has it a little bit, what I find interesting, and slightly frustrating, is how people are suddenly becoming more hygienic when their hygiene standards now should be normal practise, not exceptional behaviour for a situation like this!
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2020
    Mildly
    Also @woodbine - I am quite a big follower of the stock market, it is one of my major interests (and one I seem to have gotten mocked for on here). Just want to say congratulations on selling up before this crash. I know that timing the market is incredibly hard so if you did sell when the FTSE was still at 7500, very very well done. It is now at 5,200ish...Today we had the third biggest drop in history - almost 11%...
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 2,915 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    @66Mustang I was shocked to the core tonight when out of interest I checked how shares in M&S were doing, £1.10 !!! I remember them at £5 and more recently they have been around £2, if they fall below £1 I can see the Chinese buying the whole company.
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,149 Disability Gamechanger
    Quite
    I'm quite worried at the moment...I have severe health anxiety and contamination OCD as well as an inability to cope with any sort of injury or illness as most on here will be aware of by now.  I'd also guess my immune system is pretty poor given my diet and low food intake.  So far there's only one case of Corona confirmed in my county though.  I'll upgrade the worry level to 'very' when more cases become apparent!

    As I'm always terrified of catching illnesses from other people or being a carrier, this isn't really any different to worrying about colds, flu or Noro over winter for me.  At the moment I'm still more worried about those than Corona!

    However the shortage of handwash and toilet roll is quite worrying, especially given my IBS issues - I don't even understand why people are panic buying loo roll, Corona is a respiratory virus, it doesn't give you the s**ts!  People should be panic buying tissues instead! :D
  • pollyanna1052pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 1,999 Disability Gamechanger
    I wasn't very worried until just yesterday. I now think it is very serious.
    There are so many implications ;

    health becoming compromised or even fatal for some sadly

    NHS problems worsening

    school closures affecting parents ability to work

    my carers being unable to come, but I do have my hubby

    supplies of essential foods/meds becoming scarce

    business being financially strapped for cash or even forced to close

    There will be so many others


  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    Not at all
    As with most new viruses the normal "at risk" groups will be at risk, the elderly, the very young and the chronically sick. In my personal opinion the NHS is currently under pressure, at least in part, because of the perennial need to maintain life long after it has any point to it other than to satisfy the neurotic fear of death currently pervading our society. Perhaps the new pressure may open a few eyes to the fact that at some point there is no point maintaining a person who has no life to look forward to. I know everyone will have their own views on this and that's how things should be but maybe those of us who only have misery to look forward to can finally be heard.

    As for the financial panic that always accompanies such apparent disasters as this, then most people should not be worried at all. Anyone facing retirement in the very immediate future should react but everyone else should remember that once the panic is over the recovery should allow any losses in savings or pensions to be recovered and maybe even get a better performance by using the recovering companies stock rise to bolster them. As for "many companies going to the wall".... only small companies or businesses with no future proofing built are at risk in the short period until this panic stops and recovery restarts. Larger companies such as Tesco's have merely switched from shop sales to delivery sales as evidenced by my recent problems in placing an absolutely necessary order.

    People should not be so paranoid about death. We all must die sooner or later and to be frightened of such a natural occurrence has only come about because of fears regarding what comes next. My personal opinion based on the experience of dying twice and being in a coma for 8 days has shown me that nothing comes next, and that when we go we are gone for good. And yet I still wish that I could avoid the misery I am suffering and which will continue to get worse by getting it over with. Every one ofc is entitled to their own opinion on this but I suspect that others in a similar position to me will agree.

    In the words of an old comedy program..... "Don't panic!!!!!!!!"

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • April2018momApril2018mom Member - under moderation Posts: 2,882 Member - under moderation
    Mildly
    I’m not fussed. I have not been paying much attention to the newsreports either. So I have no idea of the actual numbers. My mom called to check on me yesterday. But I have a mental list of fun and simulating activities for the kids. I find that it helps me to stay sane. We have plenty of board games and stuff to do at home. 
    This list includes card games, decorating pebbles, and educational activities too. Additionally I have now stocked up on art supplies this afternoon whilst I was in town doing some last minute shopping. And I purchased another cheap box of Kleenex tissues in case to use in public as well. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 2,915 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    @Topkitten having been at deaths door twice, I much prefer life for as long as is possible.
    As for the big guys like Tesco not being under threat you're absolutely correct, but there will be literally thousands of small and medium sized businesses that won't see this emergency out, and they mostly employ a number of people who will lose their jobs, they are the ones I feel sorry for.
  • gaz1960gaz1960 Member Posts: 134 Pioneering
    Very
    Well,if this is true,I'm screwed! 

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8108735/Medicines-high-blood-pressure-diabetes-worsen-coronavirus-symptoms.html

    At the doctors today for regular 3 months blood test results! 

    Doctor didn't know about this article was published in the Lancet! 

    Advice was,......keep taking the tablets! 
  • LouiseHLouiseH Community champion Posts: 96 Courageous
    Mildly
    I'm not too worried about myself but more for my elderly parents. I only see them once a week but they are in their 70s and 80s and my dad at 82 has a bad chest. They have even bought these hideous looking masks 😂 but if it keeps them safe then so be it. They also live in community housing so there are people coming and going and communal areas where they live. 
    They've started wearing gloves when leaving the flat and going into any communal areas. 
    I work in retail and my housemate works with kids so there's opportunities to catch it, right there. 
    Louise Hesketh
    Community Champion
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    I agree, I am more worried for the elderly and vulnerable. My answer of “mildly” is based on myself.

    A family member who was in a medical profession told me if you want to wear a mask then it is only effective for about 15 minutes, then you need to change it for a new one.

    I also heard that wearing gloves is not a good idea as you don’t wash your hands with gloves on, so it just provides a surface for germs to breed. The best thing to do is just wash your hands.

    Obviously everyone gets their own advice and does what makes them feel comfortable, I’m just sharing what I’ve been told myself.
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,149 Disability Gamechanger
    Quite
    There seems to be an awful lot of contact avoidance going on now, with offices, Universities, sports venues etc all closing...  I wonder if benefits assessments and tribunals will be postponed before long...afterall, a lot of people going to them will be vulnerable!
  • pollyanna1052pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 1,999 Disability Gamechanger
    My sis and hubby were due to go on a cruise for his 70th at the end of the month. Yesterday they were told the 70+ folk wont be allowed to board ships.

    Then today they we were told it would be cancelled for all.....I think thousands of people are in the same `boat`...or not!

    They have saved and got so excited and counted the sleeps down. Yes, they can take another sometime, but this was so special.

    Looks like covid 19 is in every country now.

    Yes, it will die out eventually, but at what price? People and businesses and jobs will be lost...never to recover.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
     I wonder if benefits assessments and tribunals will be postponed before long...afterall, a lot of people going to them will be vulnerable!

    At this moment in time i know they are still sending out work capability assessment forms because i received one yesterday. Sad really, with so much going on in the world right now that they can still carry on sending those dreaded forms out.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing Team, Community Team Posts: 7,941 Scope community team
     I wonder if benefits assessments and tribunals will be postponed before long...afterall, a lot of people going to them will be vulnerable!

    At this moment in time i know they are still sending out work capability assessment forms because i received one yesterday. Sad really, with so much going on in the world right now that they can still carry on sending those dreaded forms out.
    Tribunals are currently still going ahead.

    There are some adjustments to assessments which can be read here: http://news.dwp.gov.uk/dwplz/lz.aspx?p1=MdBDU5MjI3N1M5ODA0OjI4NzlDOTVCQzJCQzNBRTJCRDM2NjE0QkNBMEVGNDAw-&CC=&p=0 
    and here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-support-for-employees-benefit-claimants-and-businesses?utm_source=37472ed5-c0b4-4625-8801-549259dc908d&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

    Noteably:

    For people already claiming support

    Special arrangements will be in place for people in receipt of benefits who cannot attend reassessments or jobcentre appointments because they are required to stay at home or are infected by coronavirus.

     

    • Claimants who cannot attend a reassessment for Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Universal Credit will continue to receive their payments while their assessment is rearranged. 
    • People who need to claim ESA or Universal Credit because of coronavirus will not be required to produce a Fit Note.
    • When claimants tell us in good time that they are staying at home or that they have been diagnosed with coronavirus, they will not be sanctioned. We will review their conditionality requirements in their claimant commitment, to ensure they are reasonable. 
    • Claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness. 
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope

    If you have a few minutes to spare, we'd appreciate your feedback on our online community.
  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,263 Pioneering
    Not at all
    And the panic gets worse meaning really ill people cannot get help.

    I tried calling the 111 service today and couldn't get through. They state that for most people it will be no worse than a heavy cold at worst and yet the delay, despite them asking people to go online first, has risen from 1-3 minutes to 30 minutes. The problem is that too many unintelligent people, selfish people, would rather believe the panic rumors than medical evidence.

    As for small businesses suffering.... only those in the worst of situations are at risk and most will find a way even if it means dropping staff for a little while. However, people overspend so much now that I guess that even a short time with no income will cause problems. There is something to be said for living within your means and not believing the constant loan advertising that now goes on. People have no patience.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • pollyanna1052pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 1,999 Disability Gamechanger
    it is going to get worse.
    70+ folk will stay home.
    I hope the food delivery people have enough staff etc to cope.

    This is now not panic but serious

    Keep safe everyone xx
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    It’s indeed looking like it’s going to get much worse before it gets better.

    Stay safe everyone and make sure you have enough toilet rolls.
  • kevin52kevin52 Member Posts: 73 Courageous
    Not at all
    A Person Is Found DEAD Every 19 Hours On The Street In The UK , Not A Mention Of them :(  .
    The Humans Nobody Cares About , The Danger With Covid 19 Is It Is Going To Cause A Meltdown
    Of The Human Race , Everythings Closing , Next It Will Be Total Lockdown .
    BBC And All The Others Have The Public So Scared It Will Lead To Riots Over Food ! Pubs Will Close ,
    Shops Will Close , Public Transport Will Close , No Air Travel , No Ships Will Sale , But The Rich Will Be Just Fine .
  • JenCoJenCo Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    Very
    If you're not a little bit worried I don't think you've done enough research:
    https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

    The above links to daily situation reports from around the world to the WHO. 

    Let's be fair to the non-worriers - sure 80% of those that get it will be mildly inconvenienced for 2 weeks. It's reported by survivors to be immensely painful but they got through alright.

    It's other 20% (of the whole world....) that the 80% needs to be extra vigilant for.

    Saying "I don't care, I'll get and get better" is like saying "I don't care about that 20%, that's not my problem".
    It's literally spread by touch. Not being careful means spreading it around. Others might not be so lucky as you if you're confident you'd recover alright.
    Be careful how you phrase your concerns or lack thereof. Many people are suffering.

    Stay safe all and best of luck!
  • CressidaCressida Member Posts: 688 Pioneering
    Very
    @JenCo thank you for this post. Being one of the 20% with compromised immunity this is a very worrying time. I don't think people are aware that this is life-threatening for some of us. 
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,149 Disability Gamechanger
    Quite
    66Mustang said:
    ...and make sure you have enough toilet rolls.
    Good luck finding any!  I wrongly assumed shops would have been restocked by now and the general public would have relaxed the panic buying, how wrong I was!  

    Tesco was ridiculously busy this morning (I go specifically when it's usually quiet!) and there was absolutely no toilet roll, not even that wafer thin single ply rubbish!!  No antibacterial handwash at all either, and only a few non-antibac handwash.  Almost no frozen veg, very little tea and tissues, and several frozen 'ready meals' (pizzas etc) down to the last one or two.  This is a massive Tesco Extra store that's usually well stocked, honestly never seen anything like it!  

    My worry level has now reached 'very'!!  :o
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,304 Disability Gamechanger
    Mildly
    I think the problem is lots of people are now panic buying because a few people started doing so. Only the first wave of panic buyers was due to the corona virus, the rest is simply due to other people panic buying. It is like a domino effect. People are referring to panic buyers as “idiots” but it really is only the first few who started it off, those who follow do it because they see the shelves being emptied by others.

    Maybe they will have to bring back some form of rationing as the public is clearly incapable of just buying what it needs?

    I might make another poll a week or so after this first one to see how people’s attitudes change compared to this one.
  • JenCoJenCo Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    Very
    Cressida said:
    @JenCo thank you for this post. Being one of the 20% with compromised immunity this is a very worrying time. I don't think people are aware that this is life-threatening for some of us. 
    Scary times indeed. I'm working from home until further notice and I just found out today a colleague is self-isolating as he has symptoms. How is he passing the time? Reading? Relaxing? Watching TV? No.... the absolute idiot went to the gym! How flipping stupid and inconsiderate can you be!?
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