Breaking sad news - migrants heading for UK die after boat sinks
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woodbine
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The AFP news agency is reporting that as many as 20 migrants have died after their boat sank in the channel, the boat sank just outside Calais.
Heartbreaking.Â
Moderator note: Here is a BBC News article, for reference: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59406355
Heartbreaking.Â
Moderator note: Here is a BBC News article, for reference: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59406355
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Not seen any news today very sadÂ
It's tragic that people are so desperate to put their lives in danger -
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It is sad but common sense should tell them that a small boat is not a safe option they would also be illegal I am sorry if I sound harsh and uncaring but they should apply or get help from the government the UK is in a mess and can't even help people who live hereÂ
Again I am sorry I will help anyone but there are ways of doing things and risking life is not the way -
@lisathomas50 the article suggests they were been exploited by criminal smugglers, so really they might not of had much say.Â
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@MarkM88 most illegal immigrants are involved in criminal activity and such like to pay to get to UKÂ not all illegal immigrants do that they do just get in a Dingy and try and get here the government need to have proper rules and regulations not just turn up on a beachÂ
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@lisathomas50 - I really hope you either haven't read the link, or have unfortunately misunderstood it. As Mark mentions, & the article states, these people were, ' victims of criminal smugglers.'
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Having seen the BBC news at 6pm I suspect that it's likely some of those drowned will be children, I say that as other boats filmed today had children onboard, lets hope I'm wrong.
These smugglers can make ÂŁ250,000 out of a "boat" load of migrants sadly it's big business.
In comparison to where many of these people come from the UK is the land of milk and honey, the worlds 5th richest nation, with a health service free at point of use and a great education system.
I don't know about others but I have had little problem getting a doctors appt. inc one yesterday which i made on Monday.
It's not quite right to say they are raising the pension age "yet again" it is currently 66 and will increase to 67 in a few years time.
I would agree that we don't invest in the infrastructure thats another argument, but what we have is good enough, we are talking about a few thousand coming here, in the last 18 months one million people have returned home after brexit..we have the room.2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming đź’ˇ -
lisathomas50 said:.. the government need to have proper rules and regulations not just turn up on a beachÂInformation I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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Only my opinion but its not always a good thing there are arguments both sides the government as I said should do more there are more and more reports of illegal immigrants dying trying to get here in boats lorry underneath vehicles and as @woodbine mentioned some are children people will do anything to get hereÂ
I think Russia have the right idea in one way not accepting immigrants but people do need help but it needs to be done properly because the way it's being done now people are dying -
    We cannot refuse to help these desperate people, once in British waters it is the law of the sea that we rescue them. Yes they are breaking laws but do they not also need a little compassion. Wouldn't anyone try to better their life given a choice. It isn't the 'illegal immigrants' we need to stop it's the criminals making vast amounts of money. They don't care if these people live or die they have had their payday.Â
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Some compassion is definitely needed here! There were 31 deaths from this today and at least one was a young girl. Incredibily sad indeed!
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
I do have compassion and I it is sad the government and the law need to sort it it out its a vicious circle the criminals are doing it because the immigrants are willing to pay there is fault on both sides and there is a great need of intervention to stop it from happening ?Â
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i'm at a loss as to why you think potential immigrants are at fault as they're willing to pay; they're desperate people who are fleeing their countries, giving up all they own, or financed by their families trying to help them escape. The criminals are taking advantage of such people; the fault is theirs, & theirs alone.
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The death count is now 33 and as poppy says at least one of them was a young girl, it is incredibly sad.
Our wonderful home secetary (not) has a brain wave last week that we build wave machines to secure the channel, I think she must have been with Boris on his peppa pig visit when she dreamt that one up.
As I alluded in an earlier post I don't understand anybody when they say we don't have the room when over 1 million people left the UK in the last 12 months, and when we have over 1.1 million job vacancies, for my money they can send the QE2 over to Calais and fill it with migrants and bring them safely to the UK.2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming đź’ˇ -
woodbine said:.. I don't understand anybody when they say we don't have the room when over 1 million people left the UK in the last 12 months, and when we have over 1.1 million job vacancies, ..
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/23/britain-workers-ministers-small-boats-channel
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The world is in a mess and for a variety of reasons lots of people are on the move. There is no easy way of managing these flows but simply attacking the most visible symptoms to suit newspaper headlines certainly isn’t going to help.Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK. -
As I said people need help but it's better to do it the proper way there is plenty of help where I used to live we had people from Poland didn't work out well and they were deported back to Poland people are refused for a reason that only immigration know about its better to have immigration and the government and the law deal with it and not have people just turning upÂ
Would you take someone into your home to live that you know nothing about that just turns up ??
Or would you be more prepared to take someone in that has gone through proper channels and have Bern given information you need to know ??
Only a question its the same as letting people into the UK as I said everyone needs help and it is sad what has happend and the government need to clamp down and sort it out ti stop it happening -
This has nothing to do with "taking strangers into your home"I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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Perhaps literally a world of difference in, 'there is plenty of help where I used to live we had people from Poland didn't work out well and they were deported back to Poland,' which you have intimate knowledge about, so who did it help? & why people flee war torn countries, famine, etc.
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lisathomas50 said:..where I used to live we had people from Poland didn't work out well and they were deported back to PolandÂ
Numbers seeking to enter the U.K. are proportionally much lower than in many countries because we are geographically distant from the primary areas people are fleeing whereas turkey is hosting millions of refugees.Â
Newspaper headlines, sound bites etc do notÂ
Every time I go to the hospital I am grateful to people who have come to this country (whether themselves or their parents). I really don’t care how they got here.
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