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Pip Tribunal Audio

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Jamescasali
Jamescasali Community member Posts: 86 Connected
edited July 2023 in PIP, DLA, and AA
Hi al, been a while before i ask  the main thing , can i ask  how many pip tribunals in England  are audio recorded, I ask because I had mine in Jan this year , the Judge adjourned it after 10mins to get clarification on something, OK fair enough Now was my tribunal audibly recorded? it was in Shrewsbury , id be interested in knowing whether others are, in other areas , or if none in England are recorded?
Tia

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  • Hannah_Alumni
    Hannah_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,912 Disability Gamechanger
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    From what I have found online, you are not allowed to record a tribunal hearing. 
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  • Jamescasali
    Jamescasali Community member Posts: 86 Connected
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    Hi Hannah , No you misunderstand, i am referring to  HMCTS recording the tribunal, when mine was adjourned, the Judge said I wasnt to record it (when its restarts) that will be done by the HMCTS staff, so  I know quite a few have been through a pip tribunal and so  it must be known whether they are or should be recorded
  • Jamescasali
    Jamescasali Community member Posts: 86 Connected
    edited May 2023
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    ill try and explain, i've become a bit of a record everything freak, so i asked to record my phone pip assessment which was ok'd by the guy , it transpired i mistakenly deleted half of it Dohhhh, anyway ten mins into my  tribunal ,  the judge said he was halting it to see whether  capita had recorded it themselves, i said judge , if they had id, you'd have an audio copy of it, the judge was having none of my sensible comment and adjourned the 19-1-23 tribunal, writing in his adjournment notice to me that I wasnt to record it , that it would be recorded by the tribunal staff themselves.

    Deep breath ,  so reading this i knew that it hadn't been recorded because i would have had to agree/consent to the recording of it,  And i know i wasn't asked, Now it is possible that it was recorded without my consent , I fully accept that , however that's extremely unlikely.
    So I began my quest to obtain a copy of the recording, which initially fell on deaf ears, and only when pushed , i met with , its not us  its them, we don't know where it is, we haven't the equipment , to finally saying my recording cant be  duplicated as it was recorded mistakenly in TRM file format, finishing off with  my recording cant be separated from all the other cases  the judge heard that day.

    Another deep breath sorry guys,  so bearing in mind my tribunal was adjourned and id disclosed personal details of my medical history and case to them which should be kept for the restarting of another tribunal, however , they cant provide it because its mixed up with other peoples on that day.

    I received a bundle of documents containing all the email conversations   pertaining to the apparent reasons asto why the disc cant be produced  Including one which states " I guess a little different from usual here as there's no decision to set aside etc, but you can follow the usual procedure for when we do not have a recording,.    Which to me..... sets aside all the apparent reasons they'd previously given and popped my situation into the non recorded  tribunal box , which would actually fit with my original thoughts the tribunal itself wasn't recorded in the first place

    Now i appreciate there's a lot of info here, and i hope any experts reading it can follow the story, meanwhile three weeks ago i contacted them to find out when my tribunal would be held , they'd no details of when, then today 3 days after receiving the other bundle of docs i have a new date for my tribunal, which seemed rather odd , although i'm willing to believe its just a coincidence mmm.

    So question is  how should I proceed, oh before i forget on the new tribunal docs it states " NEW CLAIM APPEALS" which in my mind it isnt
    My data and statements are laying around somewhere , apparently mixed with someones elses, so  i'm wondering what i should do.

    Time is unfortunately of the essence as the new tribunal---- Not the  restarted tribunal is on  05-06-23

    All ideas welcome after reading my war and peace

    Thanks
  • Jamescasali
    Jamescasali Community member Posts: 86 Connected
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    I'm in a real pickle over, beginning to worry me to death, dont know what i should do this i cant seem to get a straight answer out of anybody hmcts wise, surely they dont record tribunals without informing the person of the fact, that cant be true can it
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