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Paying out underpayments from incap to esa

stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
hi all does anyone no how far they have got to paying out underpayments from incap  to esa ,i changed in 2011 not heard anything as yet 

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  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    hi all does anyone know how far they have got to paying out underpayments from incap to esa ,i changed over in 2011 not heard anything as yet
  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,729 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @stillpoorly
    I have asked @BenefitsTrainingCo to take a look at your question, I hope they'll be able to help.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    All those that transferred from IB were placed on Contributions based ESA and weren't assessed for any income related top ups. They will eventually contact all those that may have been affected by this and are backdated claimants as far back as 2011 providing you qualified for the Income Related top ups at that time. They will of course have to reassess your claim before knowing how much, if any backdated money they owe you.
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  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
  • BenefitsTrainingCoBenefitsTrainingCo Member Posts: 2,692 Pioneering
    edited October 2018
    Hi stillpoorly,

    It is still an ongoing process and the latest update can be found here:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/738197/m-11-18.pdf

    Lee
    The Benefits Training Co:
    Paul Bradley
    Michael Chambers
    Will Hadwen
    Sarah Hayle
    Maria Solomon
    David Stickland
  • Sam_AlumniSam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,729 Disability Gamechanger
    @BenefitsTrainingCo said:

    The Government acknowledged the full backdating of the ESA arrears (prior to October 2014) on 18 July 2018. 

    This meant a further 250,000 cases are to be reviewed specifically in relation to arrears due prior to October 2014. This is in addition to the 300,000 they were already looking at for arrears from October 2014. The DWP have said recently (September) that they are still on schedule to review the original 300,000 by March 2019. This will include additional payments to claimants who have already been paid arrears that were limited to October 2014, with payments expected January-March 2019.

    There is currently no timescale for reviewing the additional 250,000 cases.

    Not good news for those waiting for the arrears I am afraid. You could call ESA but I am doubtful this would make any difference.

    Sarah

    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    ok thanks, but how do i find out if im entitled as the dwp wont tell me .
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Have DWP sent you a letter? They are sending letters out to all those that maybe affected but it can take some time to go through all those claims.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    no  not yet , if i gave my details ,nat insure num etc to benefit team on here could they find out if im eligable
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You can't give your NI number on here because it's an advice forum only and not part of DWP. It's not that DWP won't tell you, it's because they haven't contacted you yet. There's a huge backlog and things like this take time, it's not done over night.
    It will totally depend on circumstances. Do you live with a partner that works, have other household income?

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  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    no on my own on n off 30 yrs  
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    i stopped at theres now n again cant cope  with women  24 7  been hurt too much in past luv 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Contact DWP and they'll send you the ESA3 form and assess you for the income related top up.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    just sent back form to claim underpayment when incap changed to esa ,does this mean il get some money 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    just sent back form to claim underpayment when incap changed to esa ,does this mean il get some money 
    Hi,

    No, it doesn't i'm afraid. It will all depend on your circumstances between the dates stated in the letter. They are contacting everyone that transferred across. Some are owed money and some aren't. Decisions are currently taking between 12-20 weeks.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
  • Silver925Silver925 Member Posts: 87 Courageous
    I got mine a couple of months ago. I was entitled to any Income Related as I had paid too much NI Contributions. Not everyone they contact will get it. They have to assess your situation as it was back then. If you paid too much National Insurance they won't pay any.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It's not about paying too much national insurance. The Income Related top up is about income from living with a partner that works, pensions, savings and capital.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Silver925Silver925 Member Posts: 87 Courageous
    They told me it was because I paid too much NI Contributions for the two years that applied to me. I didn't have savings or a partner at the time.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2019
    You definitely misunderstood the reasons why you qualified for the Income related top up because paying too much NI Contributions is not one of the reasons.

    Not living with a partner or having no savings will have qualified you.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    at the time i had no partner or savings so i might be lucky then 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It will also depend on which group you were in when you transferred across...WRAG or Support Group. If it was WRAG there's less change of being owed any money.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • Monstermunch1310Monstermunch1310 Member Posts: 17 Listener
    Hi I’m new to this chat . I also got changed over from incapacity to esa back in 2011. Have filled in esa3 form and sent back . I have lived alone also was getting independence payment. Am I right in believing as was/am living alone I will be getting sdp for that time. In this last few months I Have started to get sdp premium with my esa. Many thanks
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi I’m new to this chat . I also got changed over from incapacity to esa back in 2011. Have filled in esa3 form and sent back . I have lived alone also was getting independence payment. Am I right in believing as was/am living alone I will be getting sdp for that time. In this last few months I Have started to get sdp premium with my esa. Many thanks
    You will only receive SDP during that time if you were claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care. If you weren't claiming any of those at any time during the dates in the letter then you won't be entitled to the SDP.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    ive always been in support group and high rate dla since 2011 as far as i can remember
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You must have been assessed for the Income Related at some point because you're already claiming the SDP and that's only paid as part of Income Related.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    cant remember that far back how can i find out when i first got on suport group 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    DWP will have all that information. The dates in question will be the dates stated on the letter you received with the ESA3 form. You also don't need to be in the support group to receive the SDP because it's paid in either group, including assessment rate. If other criteria apply of course.

    All you can do is wait for a decision to made on the ESA3 form, which can take between 12-20 weeks.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    ok il wait n see thanks
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,653 Disability Gamechanger
    I hope you manage to get this sorted @stillpoorly :)

    Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to help. 
    Scope

  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    what does wrag stand for
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    what does wrag stand for
    Work Related Activity group.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • stillpoorlystillpoorly Member Posts: 20 Listener
    never been in that group  ,thanx
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