Renew Pip

debbiedo49

oh my goodness I got the dreaded brown envelope and my pip runs out in November. Help! Please! 😮

susan48

I’m just waiting on my letter too, was an appeal so waiting on letter to apply again. Anxiety through the roof x

April2018mom

Hello!
Call DWP tomorrow. Do you have a social worker or not? My son’s brilliant social worker helped me to fill out the forms and answered my questions as well. She kept me calm as I awaited a reply regarding their decision. Best wishes! You can find more information here on PIP renewals at https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Claiming-Personal-Independence-Payment/Review-or-renew-PIP-claim#guide-content

poppy123456

Hi,

There's no need to ring DWP tomorrow because you already have the form.

I'd advise you to fill the form out with as much information as possible about how your conditions affect you. Adding a couple of real life examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you. If you're filling it out yourself then just do a little each day and then it won't be as bad. This is what i did with my daughters last form.

Don't forget to send evidence with the form because they rarely contact anyone for this. If you don't have enough time to return the form, you can ring DWP to request a further 14 days.

I'm assuming because you've only just received the form that you were awarded by a Tribunal? If so then, if a decision hasn't been made by the end date, your money will stop. Once a decision's been made, if you're successfully awarded your money will be backdated to the date it stopped.

Expect another face to face assessment because most people have them, it's rare to have a paper based assessment.

If you need help with the form this link will tell you what's available in your local area.

https://advicelocal.uk/

debbiedo49

I just go a letter saying my pip award will end in November no form. I won the award at appeal. So I’m rather anxious. The cab helped me with it the first time around. Thanks 

poppy123456

debbiedo49 said:

I just go a letter saying my pip award will end in November no form. I won the award at appeal. So I’m rather anxious. The cab helped me with it the first time around. Thanks 

You will need to ring DWP to re-apply, once this is done you'll be sent the PIP2 forms, which will need to be filled and returned with all your evidence.

debbiedo49

Thanks

debbiedo49

I’m waiting on my forms and an appointment with welfare rights. I missed the postie on Friday so that’s probably the forms. 

debbiedo49

Well I had my first appointment with wro today and I think it went OK. Forms filled to be posted out. Yay!

susan48

I got my form to complete, anxiety not good. Started filling out form but got to page 10 and had to stop. Think I need to find a wro 

susan48

Tried finding wro in Fife but just comes up with cab

poppy123456

susan48 said:

Tried finding wro in Fife but just comes up with cab

Try this link. https://advicelocal.uk/

Do be aware of the timescales for returning the form. You can request an extra 14 days if needed. Advice centres are overrun with appointments and this makes waiting times rather long.

The best person to fill out the forms really is yourself because you are the only one that knows how your conditions affect you. There's no specific wording to use, just tell it how it is. Adding a couple of examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you. Good luck.

elle_t

Hi @susan48 I live in Scotland and was offered help through an income maximiser worker at local Social Work Department to help complete the forms because I found it difficult to write them out if that helps

Chloe_Scope

I'm glad it all went well @debbiedo49!

If you need any further information @susan48 then please do let us know.

debbiedo49

susan48 said:

I got my form to complete, anxiety not good. Started filling out form but got to page 10 and had to stop. Think I need to find a wro 

Susan I couldn't open the envelope until just before my appointment so I understand x

debbiedo49

susan48 said:

Tried finding wro in Fife but just comes up with cab

My wro works from local council they are called M A R T. As we are both in Scotland you may be same. Last time they went with me but this time that's stopped.

paffuto10

Good luck to all who are going through it. 

I have my f2f for PIP Renewal in 2 weeks. Aaaargh. .......

They're certainly cutting it fine with me, it runs out in one month!!! 
Aaaargh again!!! 

Have to say though, they have been quite fair in offering me an alternative assessment centre with drop off point right outside the door. 
Possibly because my MP asked them how non wheelchair claimants are supposed to gain access to previous building when the nearest drop off point was 70 metres walk away??!!  

Dirty tricks abound, me thinks? 

debbiedo49

Good luck!

debbiedo49

Got my assessment on Friday aarrgghh!
grimace 😂 

Adrian_Scope

We'll be thinking of you @debbiedo49! Please let us know how you get on. 

paffuto10

@debbiedo49

Hello again 

Got through mine and received decision two weeks ago. PIP continuing at the same rate. Yaay...

So, fingers crossed for you too that you will have the same result.

Good luck! x

Chloe_Scope

I hope it goes well @debbiedo49, we'll be here if you need anything!

debbiedo49

I survived. Thanks x

susan48

Iv heard nothing.
got a letter with a. 2week extension to return my form. That was received on 01/10/19.
my final payment for previous pip appeal is November 21st!!!

not sure what will happen 

poppy123456

susan48 said:

Iv heard nothing.
got a letter with a. 2week extension to return my form. That was received on 01/10/19.
my final payment for previous pip appeal is November 21st!!!

not sure what will happen 

Most people have face to face assessments so expect one of those. Some wait weeks, others wait months, there's no timescales. If your PIP does end because a decision hasn't been made in time, once a decision is finally made if it's in your favour then your money will be backdated to the date it stopped.

Hopefully you won't be waiting too long.

paffuto10

@debbiedo49

Well done for getting through it x

paffuto10

@susan48

Mine went a few weeks over then was backdated, so try not too worry too much. Easier said than done, I know. 

Hopefully you will be hearing soon. x

debbiedo49

Thanks everyone! I haven't heard yet and won't for weeks. I just feel like saying to them: you do realise that pip is my lifeline? 

M_Eandme

Hi @debbiedo49 currently going through the same process and like you feel so stressed, anxious and dreading decision its not fair at all for those that really need it! I had to finish work last july and i depend on my pip just had my last payment so may be without in December of all months while they deciding 

susan48

I called them today as I got a letter from esa to say I’m losing the SDP as PIP will end in a few weeks. They just said it’s with a case manager and looking to make a decision without a face to face. Just means on the 22nd nov Iv pretty much lost most of my benefits payments.

god know how I will pay bills and my mortgage 

Chloe_Scope

Hi @susan48, I am so sorry to hear this and cannot imagine how you are feeling right now! Has your PIP award ended before a decision has been made?

When was the last time you rang DWP? They might be able to give you more information on the progress of your claim. 

Please do let us know how you get on and if there is anything at all we can do to help.

susan48

@Chloe_Scope, thanks.
my pip ends next Friday and still no decision.
i rang them yesterday and still with case manager!! 
Im more annoyed that they gave me a 2week extension for my completed for to be sent back, I didn’t ask for it.

just the anxiety of the waiting game now, our lives are in there hands 

paffuto10

@susan48

Mine went 10 days over and was then backpaid, also hubby's Carers Allowance was stopped but then backpaid.

It's very stressful I know, to suddenly become "non disabled".

I was too scared to even phone so you've done very well contacting them!! 

Sending you strength and hope you get the decision soon. x

paffuto10

Also sending strength and good luck in this extremely stressful waiting game, to

@M_Eandme and @debbiedo49
     
   xx

M_Eandme

@paffuto10 thankyou, unless the people behind the desk go through it, they cannot understand the extra stress and anxiety it causes on top of what we already go through im keeping everything crossed as being unable to go back to work at present i depend on this help 

Chloe_Scope

I'm sorry it's causing so much stress @susan48, they certainly like to keep people guessing! Did you request a copy of the report? This will give you an indication about what to receive.

All the best to you @M_Eandme, please do keep us updated.

M_Eandme

Report requested today so waiting game now to see what it says, my last one was full of lies so im hoping to have better experience this time 🤞🙏... my 1st one was only bout half hour, this time was close to 2 hours and i was offered home visit so the wait begins.

Chloe_Scope

Fingers crossed @M_Eandme!

debbiedo49

susan48 said:

I called them today as I got a letter from esa to say I’m losing the SDP as PIP will end in a few weeks. They just said it’s with a case manager and looking to make a decision without a face to face. Just means on the 22nd nov Iv pretty much lost most of my benefits payments.

god know how I will pay bills and my mortgage 

Hi Susan, 
That happened to me with ESA and I was going down a long road of appeals etc. Eventually I lost. Then I had to decide to go on jsa at the time to get an income. I never went back to try for ESA again as U C was coming out in my area and I was advised to stay on jsa or risk being bumped onto U C. It's complicated. but, I went on jsa and have been on that a few years. Same with me, getting or losing Pip makes the difference with paying bills etc. It's awful. I got d p with my jsa and if i don't get pip I lose it. So fingers crossed we both get some good luck x

debbiedo49

Something else I learned from my recent f2f for pip after 30 mins or so I began to get very tired and felt I was just rambling. I should have asked for a break but I just wanted it over. 

paffuto10

Same here @debbiedo49

except I also got a bit snappy. 

I was sweating, in pain from sitting and had to use the desk to pull myself up and lean on for half a minute to relieve the pressure down below (have bladder damage from radiation). 

Hubby was holding me up from behind and whilst I was standing leaning on the desk, she just continued asking me questions, which I couldn't understand! 

I burst into tears and got snappy! 

Then for the rest of the interview worried myself to death about the fact that I had managed to pull myself up and stand for half a minute. 

So rambling and crying!! 
Nightmare! 

And same as you, I should have asked for a break, but just wanted to get it over with. 

Really shouldn't have to go through this, any of us. x

susan48

When I called she ask if I’d had an assessment, I said no she said they must be try to decide without the assessment as I’d send in lots of proof! Thought they wanted letters etc. Waiting is so stressful but thanks for all your support x

debbiedo49

Good luck everyone!

Tammyjane33

@debbiedo49 I'm sorry to hear this. Why is it ending in November? How long do you get it awarded for, is it 3 years? I have been in a similar situation and it made me so ill. I hope all goes well. 

Tammyjane33

Hi does anyone know how many years pip is awarded for please? Thankyou in advance x

Tammyjane33

Sorry I think I'm looking at old posts 

M_Eandme

debbiedo49 said:

oh my goodness I got the dreaded brown envelope and my pip runs out in November. Help! Please! 😮

Hi @debbiedo49 my pip also ran out this month, had an assessment so waiting on copy of my report atm, the stress is taking over my days waiting with worry, as i went through tribunal last year, good luck 😘

Tammyjane33

@M_Eandme sorry to hear this. I hope you're assessment went well 😊

M_Eandme

Tammyjane33 said:

Hi does anyone know how many years pip is awarded for please? Thankyou in advance x

Hi @Tammyjayn33 usually 2/3 years but could be more depends on the individual as far as i know  

M_Eandme

Tammyjane33 said:

@M_Eandme sorry to hear this. I hope you're assessment went well 😊

Thanks @Tammyjane33 im still waiting for my report so have fingers crossed. My 1st assessment in 2017 was 40 mins and my report was full of lies. My recent assessment was almost 2 hours, and the guy seemed nice but i will wait to see my report

Tammyjane33

Thankyou @M_Eandme fingers crossed there will be no problems for you. 🤞❤️

poppy123456

Tammyjane33 said:

Hi does anyone know how many years pip is awarded for please? Thankyou in advance x

It depends on the individual person but it can be anything from 9 months to 10 years, which is the maximum award length.

Tammyjane33

@poppy123456 thankyou 😊

susan48

Well on Friday I received a txt informing my that an appointment has been arranged for a f2f, Friday 13th December, how lucky am I. Im annoyed as they have had my form since the end of September. Never mind,  as of now I can’t pay my bill and live that’s to the lack of interest from the government, cheers for that and a merry Christmas to them all cause here’s one person not able to think about anything else that pip and assessment and money.

poppy123456

susan48 said:

Well on Friday I received a txt informing my that an appointment has been arranged for a f2f, Friday 13th December, how lucky am I. Im annoyed as they have had my form since the end of September. Never mind,  as of now I can’t pay my bill and live that’s to the lack of interest from the government, cheers for that and a merry Christmas to them all cause here’s one person not able to think about anything else that pip and assessment and money.

I'm sorry to hear that. I note from a previous comment you were expecting a paper based assessment as you were told it was with a case manager. I'm sorry the information you were given about the paper based assessment was incorrect. Sometimes there is a delay in sending a file to the health assessment providers, other times they are sent straight away but they are always sent to them because they are the ones that write the reports and without a report a decision can't be made.

When my daughter had her review last year, i returned her forms at the beginning of September and it was 11 weeks before they were sent to the health assessment providers.

Paper based assessments are very rare, unfortunately. Do you have someone to attend the assessment with you? This can help any anxiety you may have on the day.

Once you've had the assessment, wait a week and then ring DWP to request a copy of the report, this will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.

I also note from another comment of yours on this thread that you don't know how you're going to pay your mortgage, i would advise you to ring your mortgage provider to tell them about your financial difficulties and hopefully they will be able to help you.

susan48

Thanks @poppy123456, I have someone to take me to the assessment as it’s miles away.
i did ring my mortgage company yesterday to make them aware of my situation so I have something in place for 2 months. Hopefully within that time they will have come to a decision.

Chloe_Scope

Hi @susan48, I really hope it all goes okay and please do let us know how you get on.
If you need anything in the meantime then please do let us know!

debbiedo49

M_Eandme said:

Tammyjane33 said:

Hi does anyone know how many years pip is awarded for please? Thankyou in advance x

Hi @Tammyjayn33 usually 2/3 years but could be more depends on the individual as far as i know  

My last award was. 2 years so I'm guessing it could be from one year onwards. I've read on here folks suggesting you ask for a longer award at assessment or tribunal but I've never been that confident. 

debbiedo49

susan48 said:

Well on Friday I received a txt informing my that an appointment has been arranged for a f2f, Friday 13th December, how lucky am I. Im annoyed as they have had my form since the end of September. Never mind,  as of now I can’t pay my bill and live that’s to the lack of interest from the government, cheers for that and a merry Christmas to them all cause here’s one person not able to think about anything else that pip and assessment and money.

I know exactly how you feel. It's horrible. My last claim ended while I've been going through the process. I'm now off pip. Reducing my income drastically. I'm on jsa and work part time. What I earn comes off jsa. The pip has been the motivation to go to work, to not be poor and not feeling less worthy than my colleagues earning wages. Luckily I walk there so I don't need travel money. I'm just feeling why bother? Who am I kidding? It's such roller coaster of emotions. I feel that I should get pip until a Decision is made. I'm feeling that I want a decision now so I know. Laughably, today I got a brown envelope today advising me I'm getting my travel expenses sent to my bank. It's been over one month for thirty pounds for taxis I couldn't afford. So yay I'm rich 😁 

susan48

@debbiedo49, I know it’s really tough but try to stay strong. It will probably be will into at least January before I hear anything after my assessment. Take care x

M_Eandme

It is not good at any time bit especially right on Christmas. My pip stopped November and also waiting for a decision, i requested a copy of the assessment report and 18 days on still waiting, i know they have back logs thou, good luck both 🤞

debbiedo49

💞 thanks all xx

M_Eandme

Report finally arrived today  ...much better than my last report a lot of trurh in it im pleased to say, has scored me 8 points for daily and 4 points for mobility with a advised review at 18 months.....my last one was tribunal 9 points daily 8 points mobilty which ended last month, so will wait for decision now! Stress has decreased slightly after a better report but will have to see what final decision is now, 🤞

susan48

Hi just an update- DWP received my renewal form the end of September, pip stopped and on the extra payment on my esa because my pip stopped in November.
Had a face to face on Friday, the “nurse “ I saw was understanding and listened. Or so she said! 
Now Iv to wait 4-6 weeks on a decision.
clearly there’s no point sending out forms early so they can deal with your reclaim before it ends, will be without income for at least 2 months.

looks like a Christmas on a very tight budget. Merry Christmas 🎄 

poppy123456

@susan48 Wait a week and ring to request a copy of the report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.

The timescales you were told is just a guide and nothing more. There's no timescales for decisions, backlogs are just part of the reason a decision can be delayed. I would expect it to be longer than usual at this time of year because of the Christmas closing days next week.