Tax credits child benefit

Poppy12

Hello my son who's 18 is leaving college in June. Will that be a change in circumstances to go onto universal credit early. As I'm dreading it. I don't know weather he will get a part time or full time Job but what will that mean to me as I'm on esa and dla. Thankyou 

poppy123456

Hi,

No, it won't prompt a move to UC as advised on your other thread here a couple of weeks ago.

https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/67957/universal-credit#latest

If you are claiming the severe disability premium in with your ESA then you won't be entitled to this once your son leaves college and you'll need to report the changes to DWP.

If you're claiming the single person discount with your council tax then you'll need to report the changes to your local council too. Any housing benefit you're claiming won't be affected because you're claiming DLA and non dependent deductions for this won't apply to you.

Poppy12

I know but it said family circumstances 

Poppy12

I don't know if I'm getting disability premium 

Poppy12

I got a letter saying extra about for severe disibility premium what's that about 

Poppy12

Entitled to what when my son leaves college. Will I be eligible for the premium 

poppy123456

A child leaving full time non advanced education is not a change of circumstances that will prompt a move to UC.

May i ask how much ESA you receive every fortnight and this will tell me whether you're claiming the SDP.

Poppy12

OK thanks its £109 a week

poppy123456

That tells me that you're not receiving the SDP. Although i'm confused by that amount because it's not support group rate or WRAG rate. Are you receiving any deductions in your ESA?

To answer your question your ESA will not be affected by your son finishing full time education.

Poppy12

We will be going onto universal credit in July as my son on about getting a full time job. Will it affect my esa or if go on universal credit will it affect rent and council tax oh god I'm. Dreading it 

Poppy12

I'm in the support group and it's always been. That rate since 2013. It's going up in April for a week! Then. Going back down I don't understand why 

Poppy12

Do you know when. I'll be going onto pipis it this year 

Poppy12

Pip I mean

Poppy12

Will my esa be affected if my son gets a job

poppy123456

Poppy12 said:

We will be going onto universal credit in July as my son on about getting a full time job. Will it affect my esa or if go on universal credit will it affect rent and council tax oh god I'm. Dreading it 

This is not correct because your son leaving college and starting full time work will NOT mean you'll need to claim UC. You will remain on your ESA and your son working will not affect the amount you're entitled to.

The amount you're receiving is not ESA support group rate. Contributions based ESA is £111.65 per week. Income related ESA is £128.45 per week for a single person.

I'm afraid i have no idea when you'll be invited to apply for PIP.

Poppy12

But I'm in the support group 

Poppy12

I've got a letter saying it's going up to £150.75 a week is that right 

Poppy12

And it said my partner may be required to focused work interview but he's on pip and he's ill

poppy123456

You said you were receiving £109 per week, this is not support group rate. As you're claiming with your partner then you should be receiving £177.50 per week. I'd advise you to check your bank to see exactly what you're receiving every fortnight. If it's not £177.50 per week then you'll need to ring ESA and ask why you're not receiving that amount.

If you're not claiming ESA as a couple then does your partner work or does he claim another benefit?

Poppy12

Yes claiming as a couple but do they take so much of cause my husband is a carer for me 

Poppy12

My husband will be getting the dependacy element tooken of him in April 

Poppy12

Do the take all that amount off just for a partner 

Poppy12

When my son gets a full time job will it affect what I get in universal credit. 

poppy123456

If your partner is claiming Carers allowance for looking after you then your ESA should be £148.20 per week. Then he'll receive the carers allowance separately,

There's no dependency element of ESA, this applied to Incapacity benefit.

Poppy12

No the dependacy element on carers. So your saying I should get that amount with my husband even caring for me. But hey its going up in. April anyway. Thanks for your help 

poppy123456

If you're only receiving £109 per week ESA then you'll need to either ring ESA and ask them why you're only receiving this law amount. Or take all your paper work to an advice agency near you and ask them to take a look. It's extremely difficult to give any further advice here because i can't see any of your paper work and without all the exact information it's impossible to give any further advice, we could be here all day.

Please remember that your son leaving full time education will not mean you'll have to claim UC. You will remain on all of your existing benefits.

Poppy12

But I didn't get this from 2013 do I been missing out on this ever since

Poppy12

I've been claiming esa since 2013 and I it £109 ever since shouldn't I get it back dated 

poppy123456

It's possible that you are not claiming ESA as a couple and you're claiming ESA for just yourself and it's Contributions based. Although that amount is still less than what it should be because it should be £111.65 per week.

You say your partner is claiming Carers allowance? You also mention a work focused interview that they have to attend. Does your partner claim Income Support as well as Carers allowance? This would explain the reason why they have to attend the work focused interview.

Without knowing all of your exact circumstances it's very difficult to advise you.

Poppy12

My husband doesent claim income support he's down on esa as my partner to get prescriptions ect 

poppy123456

Then the amount you're receiving isn't correct based on the information you gave and you'll definitely need to ring ESA.

Poppy12

Definitely my mental health worker said she will ring them up. Thankyou 

poppy123456

You're welcome. Please come back and let us know, i'd be very grateful.

Poppy12

If my son starts a part time job will it be a change in circumstances to go onto universal credit in July August time sorry to a pain 

poppy123456

Poppy12 said:

If my son starts a part time job will it be a change in circumstances to go onto universal credit in July August time sorry to a pain 

No, absolutely not because what your son earns has no affect on your benefits.

Poppy12

Isent it affects rent and council tax 

poppy123456

Your rent will not be affected, as i already advised a couple of times. The is because you're receiving DLA and non dependent deductions will not apply to you. See link and scroll down to exemptions from deductions. https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/housing_benefit_deductions_when_living_with_non-dependants

Council tax reduction then you'll need to contact your local council because all councils have their own rules and i won't be able to advise you with this.

Poppy12

I've been looking on the website and it said if a child leaves college it will be affected and rent going up. Or down and in April the housing benefit going up so there's a change in circumstances 

Poppy12

In April 2020 the housing benefit is going up that's a change in circumstances 

poppy123456

Poppy12 said:

I've been looking on the website and it said if a child leaves college it will be affected and rent going up. Or down and in April the housing benefit going up so there's a change in circumstances 

I'm not sure what you've read but whatever it is you have misunderstood it because as i keep advising, those are not classed as a change in circumstances that will prompt a move to UC.

I'm one of the community champions here on scope and my knowledge is quite extensive regarding benefits. See this link and it will tell you all the changes of circumstances that will prompt a move and yours is NOT one of them.

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/changes_that_trigger_Universal_Credit

A child leaving education and rent increases are not changes that will prompt a move to UC. Your tax credits will just be adjusted to a lower amount once your son leave education. Do be aware also that your child benefit will also change to a lower amount. As your still claiming this for your other son, if it's just for him then you will receive the higher amount of £20.70 for the first child.

Poppy12

I have a 8 year old too. Thanks for your advice 

poppy123456

Yes, i remember you said. You're welcome.

Poppy12

Hello. I'm on dla but can I claim dla for my son who's 8 will it be a trigger to go on universal credit 

poppy123456

Poppy12 said:

Hello. I'm on dla but can I claim dla for my son who's 8 will it be a trigger to go on universal credit 

Your question regarding DLA for your child was answered on a previous thread of yours. No, it won't be classed as a change of circumstances to claim UC because it's not part of UC.

Please see this link about claiming DLA for a child https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/disability-living-allowance/before-you-claim-dla/check-if-you-can-get-dla/

Poppy12

OK thanks for your advice