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I was just awarded LCWRA. Am I due any back dated payments?

Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
edited February 14 in Universal Credit
Hello everyone!

I have been providing fit notes since 25th September 2020, and had my Wca assessment last week (5th Feb).

Got a letter in my uc journal this afternoon letting me know that they have decided that I have Lcwra.

Trying to figure out if I'm due anything back dated. My assessment period for uc is 9th till 8th of every month. Any insight or advice is appreciated.

Tia xx

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  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi 

    Great news this is how it is worked out 

    Sept wouldn't count as fit note doesnt cover whole of assessment period as long as that is when you reported medical condition on that date 

    Oct 9th -nov 8th first waiting period 

    9th nov -8th dec 2nd waiting period 

    9th dec - 8th jan 3rd waiting period 

    9th jan to 8th feb first payment period 

    So you should get additional payment in your feb payment but no back pay will be due 

    Hope this helps 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    My Feb payment is due on the 15th  :D Many thanks for helping 
  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    It may not be in that payment as can take a while to update on the system but you should then get it backdated in march payment . Have you checked your payment statement to see if it is included  ? 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    I will go log in and see if anything has updated :) xx
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Nope nothing on my statement for my payment due 15th Feb xx

  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    I'd your feb statement there ? 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Yes, it was available 2 days ago. Nothing showing for lcwra. I will give them a chance  :D xx

  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    No doubt the decision was made too late for this payment 

    You could always put a note on your journal to make sure it is picked up 

    Please note when they sort it they will alter your feb statement so you might want to print it off b4 they update it so you can see it wasnt paid 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Good thinking! xx
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Just screenshot it. My payments are always the same, so would notice anything taken or added. I can't thank you enough for helping today xx
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Morning @janer1967

    My statement has been updated with this months lcwra payment
  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    That's great news 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Only thing is, on the decision letter it didn't state how long I have been awarded Lwcra. Will I find out in due course?
  • calcotticalcotti Member Posts: 434 Pioneering
    Only thing is, on the decision letter it didn't state how long I have been awarded Lwcra. Will I find out in due course?
    They don't put end dates on LCW/LCWRA decisions. DWP can decide to review at any time after 3 months. 
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing Team, Community Team Posts: 7,941 Scope community team
    Glad they've sorted it in time for this month's payment for you @Ainsley_83. As calcotti mentioned, there isn't an official end date (they do make a recommendation but can choose to reassess you sooner or long after that date) and you'll continue to receive LCWRA until a new assessment takes place and a new decision is made. 
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  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Thank you @Adrian_Scope One last question....

    I have a work search call with my work coach on my to do list for 5th March. Will that be taken off my to do list?
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Ainsley_83 i had same just been awarded lcwra so apparently now you wont even have a work coach.as soon as i was awarded lcwra my ciach just stopped replying completely on journal messages and i was advised on an other thread that this is why.you will no longer have to provide fitnotes but only future ones.keep any previous ones that you have as they will still possibly need to see them to confirm them after lockdown.ive been told to do this by uc yesterday.
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Also i have finally recieved a note saying im owed 3,495 but as i have an alleged dwp debt of 10,000 pounds it has been sent to debt management team to see if they will offset this against the debt! I have rung them and nearly had a panic atrack on phone but the lady was lovely.shes made a note on the system about my situation...as i need it to move urgently for mental health reasons .she has put that i was distressed on phone and that i am currently already making monthly repayments on the debt. She said theyve not actually received it yet but to check back next week and a decision maker will decide so fingers crossed.also she explained that pip backdates are not regarded in the same way and thats why i was issued those pip backpayments without it been taken from me.
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    @thatsmyname

    Hi! Yeah pip isn't part of universal credit. It's paid separately. I was wondering if the phone call would still go ahead, as it's still in my to do list. If the work search call comes, I will nicely tell them I have lcwra  
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Ainsley_83 i would just be available in case i guess.but lady who actually replied to me on journal this morning said you dont have to declare the lcwra award as they get notified straight away on system.i thought you had to tell them and added it on my journal and thats reply i got.my lcwra payment went on straight away too i got the extra 340 on this months payment
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    My uc is due on Monday, and the statement was available earlier this week. Looked this morning and they have updated mine and I have got my first lcwra payment too. I thought I would have to also tell my work coach too about lcwra. Will see if she calls me 5th March  :D
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    I dont think she will i had one due too but nope..soon as you get that award its like they couldnt wait to get rid lol.glad you got your extra money so quick i did too.it really makes a huge difference doesn't it.plus also you should be due backdate if you have provided sick notes all this time.if you have backpayment due and you have a dwp debt then obviously you may encounter my said problem but like i said its with a decision maker now who knows might come good yet.
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    @thatsmyname I wasn't due any back payment. As my fit note went in on the 24th of September and my assessment period is  9th-8th, We have a 3 month period to wait. But glad you are all sorted too. Yep, it's going to help loads. Been struggling to live with two teenage kids that eat all the time  :D
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Ainsley_83 i hear you lol especially when they are stuck at home they tend to eat for the sake of it sometimes! Boredom eating...we've all done it 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    So just checked my online banking, as Im due paid on Monday and it credits on a Saturday for me with my bank. I haven't received the lcwra just my normal uc amount I was getting before. Is this because they didn't update my statement till yesterday? How long will I be waiting for it do you think?
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Ainsley_83 that is not right it you should have recieved the amount on your statetment.i would ring them and ask why. But first check your bank statement if you can get one to see what was paid in just in case something has been taken from your bank without you knowing.
  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    It could be as you said that's it was only updated yesterday the payment may have already been processed 

    Like I said before they do overwrite old payments once they add the element on 

    Either put a note o  your journal or cal them 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    I left a note, and someone replied saying they were sending the payment today and I should get it by 8pm tonight. Yeah it was because the payment had already neem processed by the time they updated my statement. I got uc today as my bank shows payments due on a Monday on a Saturday.
  • janer1967janer1967 Community champion Posts: 7,305 Disability Gamechanger
    Great hope its all sorted now for you 
  • Ainsley_83Ainsley_83 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Me again! So I left a message in my journal today asking how long I have been awarded lcwra. They replied with :Hi Ainsley
    
    It goes from the date your first fit note was from. It doesn't mean after 17 months it automatically stops, it will continue and a further assessment will be arranged if required.
    
    Regards 
    
    I thought it would be 17 months when they awarded me lcwra. Taking it from my first fit note seems strange
  • thatsmynamethatsmyname Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Ainsley_83 mine doesn't  have any timescale on note i got on mine it seems people get differently worded messages.i finally got my backpay today 3,700 yay! 
  • calcotticalcotti Member Posts: 434 Pioneering
    I think this means that you are treated as having LCWRA from when you reported the health condition and provided a Fit Note - which means that, if applicable, you would get a Work Allowance from that date. It doesn’t mean you are entitled to be paid the LCWRA element from that date. For that there is the three month waiting period.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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