Hi, my name is ahora98! Should I do something for backdated or not?

ahora98

Hi i applied for pip 14month ago and last week i recieved the letter and they put me on LWCRA, but they nothing say about my backdated, shoud i do something for backdated or not? 

poppy123456

I have no idea how you could have applied for PIP and then you were found to have LCWRA because they are 2 completely different benefits.

LCWRA is part of Univeral Credit (UC). For this, there's a full 3 month assessment period waiting time and the extra money is paid from the 4th month after you reported your health condition. Providing you sent a fit note within 7 days of that and continued to send them without any gaps.

I can't advise when it's paid from without the answer to these questions.

What date exactly did you report your health condition?

What date do you usually receive your UC is month?

ahora98

hello, they sent me qoutation pip paper and i filled and sent back to them. im in universal credit. my first report diagnosis was on 14jul 2021that i report in juornal in unversial credit but my firt fit note i sent to them was on Aug 2021,and sent them my fit note countinusly untill last week, i have had assessment with pip by video call, next they they send me letter that put me on LCWRA, and now they mention in my payment in universal credit you will receive 354 pound every month which start on 1of November, but they didnt any mention about my backdated payment, i wanna to know what should i do to recieve my bakdated? 

date dignoss: jul 2021

date fitnot report: 1August 

recieve universal credit first of every mont, thanks again 

poppy123456

Money owed is usually paid separately from your usual monthly amount. It can take a few weeks to pay what they owe you. Taking into consideration the waiting period which for you will be August to November 2021. Your first payment should be December 1st 2021.

Before they pay you they will need to recalculate your past statements to work out exactly how much you should have been paid, against what you've already been paid. You will then receive the difference between the two. You will then receive a letter on your journal telling you how much they owe and they will pay it into your bank.

ahora98

thanks for answer to me, you mean they will let me know how much owe me? if they do not let me know about this, should i do something to receive my backdated? 

poppy123456

Yes you will receive a letter on your journal once your statements have been recalculated but as i advised it often takes a few week for them to do this.

As you were only told what the decision was last week then if you don't hear anything in the next couple of weeks then put a message on your journal under the payment section and ask about the money they owe you.

ahora98

Hello again, today i have, recivied a letter which shows they pay my bakdated from february 2022 untill september 2022, but i sumbited my evidence (fit note) since August 2021 continusly till last mont, i do not know what should i do about this, appreciate if you answer this, thanks 

calcotti

You are only paid LCWRA from the fourth complete UC monthly period after you report the health condition.

You previously advised us that you are paid on the 1st of the month and that you declared your health condition on 1st August. That is in the July to August period.

The waiting period is August to November. LCWRA appears to be due for November to December which would be paid on 1st January. If correct you are missing one moth of arrears.

You can post a payments query on your UC journal asking them to check the date the arrears are due from. Remind them wh3n you first reported your health condition.

poppy123456

Based on the information you gave previously then the LCWRA element is payable from December 2021. You can request the Mandatory Reconsideration on the decision not to start it from Dec 2021.

ahora98

how, can request mondatory reconsideration on the decision? 

calcotti

poppy123456 said:

Based on the information you gave previously then the LCWRA element is payable from December 2021. You can request the Mandatory Reconsideration on the decision not to start it from Dec 2021.

I think from January. Your earlier calculation was out

poppy123456 said:

Money owed is usually paid separately from your usual monthly amount. It can take a few weeks to pay what they owe you. Taking into consideration the waiting period which for you will be August to November 2021. Your first payment should be December 1st 2021. 

The payment for the November to December period would be payable on 1st January.

poppy123456

calcotti said:

poppy123456 said:

Based on the information you gave previously then the LCWRA element is payable from December 2021. You can request the Mandatory Reconsideration on the decision not to start it from Dec 2021.

I think from January. Your earlier calculation was out

poppy123456 said:

Money owed is usually paid separately from your usual monthly amount. It can take a few weeks to pay what they owe you. Taking into consideration the waiting period which for you will be August to November 2021. Your first payment should be December 1st 2021. 

The payment for the November to December period would be payable on 1st January.

Thanks, unusual for me to get the waiting period wrong but looking back the information given was quite confusing.

poppy123456

ahora98 said:

how, can request mondatory reconsideration on the decision? 

You can put a message on your journal requesting this and tell them that your calculations tell you that your first payment should be 1st Jan and not Feb.

calcotti

poppy123456 said: Thanks, unusual for me to get the waiting period wrong but looking back the information given was quite confusing. 

It is unusual - I doubted myself and double checked when I saw the discrepancy, the change in information supplied was confusing.

Dua

Hi

I have question about lcwra backdated money.

Actually i was submitting my fit note since 26th may 2022. And thanks God on 19th October I was awarded lcwra. I received my lcwra element with my universal credit at end of October first time.

And according to universal credit they will not pay me any backdated money. Bcz lcwra starts after 3 months. If anyone knows, I just want to know that actuality first 3 months are unpaid. 

Thanks 

ahora98

hi, the first backdated start from 3mont after you gave them evidence (fit note) you sumbited fit not on May and you should get one month backdated. 

poppy123456

Dua said:

Hi

I have question about lcwra backdated money.

Actually i was submitting my fit note since 26th may 2022. And thanks God on 19th October I was awarded lcwra. I received my lcwra element with my universal credit at end of October first time.

And according to universal credit they will not pay me any backdated money. Bcz lcwra starts after 3 months. If anyone knows, I just want to know that actuality first 3 months are unpaid. 

Thanks 

Whats the exact date you usually receive your money each month?

Dua

I submitted my first fit note 26th May.
and my assessment period is 19th to 19th of each month and I receive money in my account on 26th of each month.

and when I asked in journal, they replied that I don’t own any money.

thanks

calcotti

You reported in May to June.
The waiting period is June to September.
The LCWRA element is payable for September to October payable on 26th October.

poppy123456

Dua said:

I submitted my first fit note 26th May.
and my assessment period is 19th to 19th of each month and I receive money in my account on 26th of each month.

and when I asked in journal, they replied that I don’t own any money.

thanks

It's not paid at all during the waiting period, which is why you're not owed any money.

ahora98

hi, I reported my health condition in 10 of July (

Health change

Effective from: 10 July 2021

[Removed by moderator- full name]  has a health condition that restricts their ability to work) but i put my first fit note 2 of Agust 2021till september 2021.i wanna to know my backdated start from 10 of july or 2 of August 2021. they pay backdated to me  last day from February 2022 till september 2022. im a little confused, could you guide me, thanks.