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Supported internship and benefits

ReneP

Hello. My 18 yr old recently diagnosed autistic son is starting a supported internship. Can I continue to get child benefit for him or do I apply for carers allowance and what other benefits. Or does he apply himself I’m getting confused thanks

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calcotti

When did he leave education?
https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-16-19

Does he receive a disability benefit? If not you cannot claim Carer’s Allowance.

Are you claiming any benefits yourself?

ReneP

He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you

calcotti

You cannot claim for him in his name unless you become an appointee.
https://www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits

You didn’t answer the question I asked about when he left education. If he has just left your CB can continue to end of August - but you need to keep CB informed. if he claims UC your CB entitlement ends.

If he is not getting DLA or PIP you cannot claim Carer’s Allowance.

What benefits are you in the process of starting to make a claim for?

ReneP

He officially finished college in June but his attendance wasn’t very good. I’m using the Turn2us site and have an appointment with a local centre to help me with available benefits. I’m just trying to understand a little more before this happens. Thank you

poppy123456

My daughter did a supported internship for 2 years with college and all my benefits continued for her. During this time she spent most of her time at work and 1 day at college. Is he getting paid from his employer for this?

ReneP

Hi, I don’t think he is getting any payment when we go to the ‘official’ registration will put on my list of things to ask. Did your daughter enjoy her time on the special internship? I have a lot to find out and learn about it all. I am also a bit worried about losing the child benefit payment as we get child maintenance from his other parent but if the CB. Finishes so will the CM. Thank you

poppy123456

As he's not being paid then it's classed as full time education (study programme). (same as my daughter) This means that child benefit will continue up until the day before his 20th birthday, if he remains in full time education but you will still need to report the changes to child benefit.

He won't be able to claim any means tested benefits himself because he's in full time education.

Does he claim PIP or DLA?

ReneP

No not yet, we have an appointment with a benefits adviser coming up, this has all happened quite quickly after his diagnosis
and I’m not familiar with some of the rules. Thank you for all the help

poppy123456

As he's over 16 then it would be PIP he will need to claim. You don't need a diagnosis to claim this. Whether he's entitled to anything will totally depend on how his conditions affect him. Have a look at these links.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/

https://pipinfo.net/

You won't be able to claim carers allowance for looking after him because he will need to be in receipt of PIP daily living award. https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility

calcotti

Thanks, poppy. I didn’t know when I replied that a supported internship would be through an educational establishment and therefore count as stil in education. I assumed it was something offered by the employer.

poppy123456

calcotti said:

Thanks, poppy. I didn’t know when I replied that a supported internship would be through an educational establishment and therefore count as stil in education. I assumed it was something offered by the employer.

No worries. They are very confusing and there's not a huge amount of information out there, especially around child benefit/tax credit etc. The aim of these internships is that the employer will take on the student at the end. Sadly for my daughter the pendemic started in the middle of it so by the time she finished the first one there was no job available for her.

ReneP

Thank you so much for the replies x

L_Volunteer

You are welcome @ReneP. Replies are the very least you deserve. If we can do anything else to support you, please don't hesitate to let us know

racyguy

ReneP said:

He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you

Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!

ShirleyW

racyguy said:

ReneP said:

He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you

Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!

@racyguy in what way does your comment help the opening poster with their problem?

poppy123456

racyguy said:

ReneP said:

He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you

Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!

That sounds like completely different circumstances at the time to the OP. Supported internships now are available for people between the ages of 16-24 and are only for those that have a EHCP.

Benefits for a young person always stop the day before they reach their 20th birthday.

racyguy

ShirleyW said:

racyguy said:

ReneP said:

He did two years of college, but hasn’t done very well with everything, but hoping now with the diagnosis and the supported internship that he will do better. I just get child benefit and in the process of starting to make a claim for benefits. I’m not sure whether he should claim for himself ( with my help) or I claim in my name for him, or both. Is there a right or wrong way? Thank you

Just shows just how much I don't know. One of my daughters 20 odd years ago qualified as an accountant through college. She was recommended by her tutor to take up an internship in New York for two years as her specialist subject was American Financial Law,
As her parents we had to cover all of her living costs, rent, travel, clothes etc whilst she was there. Family allowance ceased when she left college (age 20) and she was not entitled to any benefits and nor were we!

@racyguy in what way does your comment help the opening poster with their problem?

Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College.

calcotti

racyguy said:
Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College.

As far as I can remember, 45 years ago university students could sign on for JSA over the summer vacation.

racyguy

calcotti said:

racyguy said:
Just showing how things have changed over the years. 20+ years ago children/young people who wished to continue their education were expected to be still supported by their parents - even up to the age of 25 in some cases such as those in uni then another 2+ years in say Law College.

As far as I can remember, 45 years ago university students could sign on for JSA over the summer vacation.

No idea I have never heard of that.
Presumably like the summer holidays Easter etc would have been classed as unemployed?
Seems ridiculous though and no wonder it was done away with.