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Top up transition protection (how much)

Lostsoul13

hi I’m thinking going onto uc before my migration - although benefits checkers have given weird result which I have posted so I’m unsure how much uc I will receive- to deduct and work out my wages -

If you’re single and 25 or over

£393.45

If you have limited capability for work and you started your health-related Universal Credit or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) claim before 3 April 2017	£156.11

£132.12, if the ‘limited capability for work and work-related activity’ element is included in your Universal Credit payment
£172, if you get, or are entitled to, the disability premium
These are all the amounts I’m entitled to but still isn’t as much as my esa payment 481 every two weeks with my disability premiums-
will uc top up further as transition protection to make my amount the same as my uc? And from the advise given because I have severe premium I will get the transitional protection even if I go to uc before migration?
Thanks?

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Lostsoul13

sorry it left out

If you have limited capability for work and you started your health-related Universal Credit or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) claim before 3 April 2017

£156.11

Lostsoul13

Total of 853.67 when my esa is 962 but 14 times a year if they work it out monthly it would be 1,122.33 a month obviously uc not paying me that much? From what I calculated?

poppy123456

If you're in the Support Group for ESA then you'll be entitled to the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. Therefore your UC would include.. standard allowance £393.45/month + LCWRA element £416.19/month and any other elements you maybe entitled to too such as housing element for help with your rent.

As your ESA includes the SDP and you're in the Support Group then the SDP Transitional element for you would be £140.97/month.

The Transitional Protection for the disability premium doesn't apply. Same as the £156.11, it doesn't apply to you if you're in the Support Group for ESA. This only applies to those in the WRAG whose claim started before April 2017.

How many hours per week will you be working? If it's less than 16 hours and you earn no more than £183.50/week you can continue to claim ESA through permitted work. Permitted work is a lot more generous that the work allowance is for UC.

Lostsoul13

I have claim from 2012 so what will be my amounts?

Lostsoul13

I was in support group by the way

Lostsoul13

is it the same as you said? Thanks

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/974098#Comment_974098

It will be as I advised above.

Lostsoul13

thanks so much regards

poppy123456

Do you claim for help with the rent? What's the reason for wanting to claim UC? Is it because you'll be working and earning more than the permitted work rules allow?

Lostsoul13

I’m in supporting housing so hb will stay pay rent but I’m bidding for property with housing association so hopefully I’ll be shortlisted then claim rent in uc - I’m looking to start another job so takes me over the 15.5 your allowing on esa.

poppy123456

As you're claiming for help with the rent then your work allowance will be £404/month. For every £1 of earnings you receive over that amount then your UC will reduce by 55p, so the it's much less generous than permitted work rules for ESA.

For example.. If your earnings are £1,000 per month this would mean your UC will reduce by £327.80/month. To calculate the deduction £1,000 earnings - £404/ work allowance = £596 x 0.55 for deductions = £327.80/month.

Lostsoul13

28.5 hrs I’m going to be doing. One 12.5 job and one 16 hr job. Obviously I’m better off still on uc. By 3-400 working this- will the 494 work allowance rise in April 1.7%? How will the new wage if 12.21£ be reflected if they don’t raise it?

Lostsoul13

sorry 404 allowances

poppy123456

From April the work allowance will be £411/month. So every £1 of earnings over that amount and your UC would reduce by 55p.

Lostsoul13

thank you so much for your help poppy youve enlightened me! Regards!!

poppy123456

You're very welcome. Good luck with your new job too!!

frankrules

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/974095#Comment_974095

I'm in a similar situation I have migrated over from ESA support group with sdp. So does this monthly figure work out at £950.61 with transition protection ?

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/974224#Comment_974224

You've claimed because of managed migration having received a letter asking you to claim so for you it will be different. Your UC entitlement will not be any less than your current benefits because if it is TP will make up the difference to make sure you're not worse off at the time of migration.