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a question as im baffled

maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
edited February 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
most posts re pip assessments say collect evidence  of illness  which i did   yet then i get comment that  we concentrate on illness and basically evidence which is worthless indeed stated amazed at people who concentrate on illness instead of evidence instead saying what points they should have had PLEASE PLEASE which is it give evidence or concentrate on points  but remember yo need acesmant first you canot tell them how to score you-you can only try to tell them after i cant find the post now were i seem to be wrong and poster cant se he can do any more for me

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    PIP is a functional assessment. Evidence of illness or disability is usefull to show the reasons why you have functional problems but cannot show the problems you have. Each claimant is different even with the same or similar conditions functionality will vary. You aim when making a claim is to show that you meet  the various descriptors so understanding the points system, descriptors and criteria for an award is vital.

    CR


    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    edited February 2018
    PIP is a functional assessment. Evidence of illness or disability is usefull to show the reasons why you have functional problems but cannot show the problems you have. Each claimant is different even with the same or similar conditions functionality will vary. You aim when making a claim is to show that you meet  the various descriptors so understanding the points system, descriptors and criteria for an award is vital.

    CR


    thanks  so as long as i demonstrate or claim in an acessmant how i am day to day and can point out this is points i can or should have with facts on paper i should be fine???

  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,284 Disability Gamechanger

    @maid08
    hello and welcome, have you tried the self test pip on this site or on the work and benefits site by doing either you will see as a rough guide how you may fair in a pip acessment. Having upto date medical evidence of you medical condition and treatment and how it effects your daily living and mobility is a good start. The main thing is filling in the form as what you put down in the pip form will be questioned at your acessment and you will have to give justification to the answers you wrote in your form as to why you can or cannot do the activities to a reasonable and repeatable standard in a certain amount of time to score points the same goes for the mobility part of the acessment, I hope this information has been of some help to you it blunt ant to the point better to be up front than give you false hope. 
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    wilko said:

    @maid08
    hello and welcome, have you tried the self test pip on this site or on the work and benefits site by doing either you will see as a rough guide how you may fair in a pip acessment. Having upto date medical evidence of you medical condition and treatment and how it effects your daily living and mobility is a good start. The main thing is filling in the form as what you put down in the pip form will be questioned at your acessment and you will have to give justification to the answers you wrote in your form as to why you can or cannot do the activities to a reasonable and repeatable standard in a certain amount of time to score points the same goes for the mobility part of the acessment, I hope this information has been of some help to you it blunt ant to the point better to be up front than give you false hope. 
    thank u wilko  but this is ongoing claim  not a new one my last one  nothing was put properly by acesser she put what she decided  not facts??im on review  now and asked about evidence because now they are saying not enough and provide it if available this time   they hold it all  im shot health wise  and everyone can tell i am  but this time like the last i beleave   because i can stand up move my arm think  breath it will be just the same ?cured in fifteen mins ??hence  eveidence or  points  ?
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    ohh sory wilko yes i have used both places to see points award  both times only honestly putting true facts both come up advanced 45points total  yet scored 11 and after the last one only due to threat court action to the person who signed the  refusal

  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    For my own claim I submitted no medical evidence. Explain as concisely as possible how your funtionality is affected, don't waffle on. If you  do supply evidence make sure it is relevant if you want them to read it, more is not always better. Do  not rely on DWP or AP  contacting any GP or specialist.

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,284 Disability Gamechanger
    For you and any one sending medical letters photo copy them for your own records or if  they get lost mislaid.same with award letters if you have to send them off for other proof of awards to councils ect.
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    For my own claim I submitted no medical evidence. Explain as concisely as possible how your funtionality is affected, don't waffle on. If you  do supply evidence make sure it is relevant if you want them to read it, more is not always better. Do  not rely on DWP or AP  contacting any GP or specialist.

    CR
    done that  supplyed no evidence to aceser only answered questions in full as per my claim  plus bit more ie effects later in days  ??ignored not put down by her in fact   im fit as a fiddle showing no obvious illness 

  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    It is likely that you will have better success at an independant tribunal appeal than with any reconsideration.

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    sorry all  i appreciate every coment  but i am not able to put it into sense as i did everything you all post   in fact prob a bit more   but i lifeted my leg and held bit paper and thats me done with ???i do have original  claim and results plus amended bit after court threat    i am just so stresed again  in the thought here we go again   gen facts given shown but acesser lies thats it  i have already has a book load of lies from capita and dwp case maneger workers and not had acessmant yet

  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    It is likely that you will have better success at an independant tribunal appeal than with any reconsideration.

    CR
    ohh i could more or less garantee that  they wont ned to ask they will see   but will i be here to see it   this condition is balance never cure but gives number other things cant be stopped  sighhhhhhh  i so wish  i had been told its family prob when younger i could maybe had a diff life

  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    maid08 said:
    For my own claim I submitted no medical evidence. Explain as concisely as possible how your funtionality is affected, don't waffle on. If you  do supply evidence make sure it is relevant if you want them to read it, more is not always better. Do  not rely on DWP or AP  contacting any GP or specialist.

    CR
    done that  supplyed no evidence to aceser only answered questions in full as per my claim  plus bit more ie effects later in days  ??ignored not put down by her in fact   im fit as a fiddle showing no obvious illness 

    maid08 said:
    For my own claim I submitted no medical evidence. Explain as concisely as possible how your funtionality is affected, don't waffle on. If you  do supply evidence make sure it is relevant if you want them to read it, more is not always better. Do  not rely on DWP or AP  contacting any GP or specialist.

    CR
    done that  supplyed no evidence to aceser only answered questions in full as per my claim  plus bit more ie effects later in days  ??ignored not put down by her in fact   im fit as a fiddle showing no obvious illness 

    evidence from consultants heart stroke blood supplyed in claim pack to dwp not acesser
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