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Help with PIP decision

valfvalf Member Posts: 2 Listener
edited April 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
I need help with my PIP decision     Can you help please?


  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    Hello Valf, just wanted to say hello.  There are some very experienced individuals here, who can help you. All the best.
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @valf and a warm welcome to the community. Glad to have you with us. We have a lot of resources on PIP here, and a number of experts who will take a look at your post in due course. The weekend may just slow things down a little, but they are very quick off the mark.
    It would help them, however, to help you, if you could tell us a little more about the problems you are having.
    Warmest best wishes,
  • valfvalf Member Posts: 2 Listener
    I was on disability living allowance then had heart failure,    I reported a change of circumstance & was forced to go onto PIP.     Now they have said I cannot have my motobility car & must give it back!     Excuse me,    I need it now more than ever!    Twice refused!
  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    So sorry Valf, I to might lose my car, just waiting upon a MR and if that goes against me, I will go to Tribunal.  There are many people on this site in the same position as you and me.
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you, @valf. That clarifies things somewhat. Bear with us, and other knowledgeable members and advisors will get back to you as soon as possible.
    Very warmest best wishes,
  • steve51steve51 Member Posts: 7,175 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @valf

    Good Afternoon it’s great to meet you this afternoon.

    We have got lots of info on here about “PIP”

    We have got “Benefit Advisors” on here.

    I will let them have your post for there opinion.

    Please please let me know if I can help you further???

    Hi @BenefitsTrainingCo
    can you please offer me some help with this?????

  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi valf and  welcome

    When did you receive your decision letter /
    Have you asked for a copy of the assessment report ?
    Have you asked for an MR ?

    Unfortunately we see similar stories on the forums far too often

    If you can you should get help from CAB or any charity that supports your condition

    If you haven't done so you should ask for a copy of the assessment report asap. You will need this to identify the areas that you need to challenge

    For now you need to concetrate on showing that you meet the descriptors for an award.

    Although it is important to address any issues with the assessment report or HCP, this should be done as a separate complaint to the assesment provider. It can be beneficial to mention that you are making a formal complaint

    Most HCP' and DM's don't take into account the reliability factors and make their decisions on a snap shot of your life, how you were at the time.

    To complete any of the descriptors you need to do so Safely, Repeatedly, In a timely manner and to an acceptable standard.

    For example : If you can walk 20 - 50 metres but you can't repeat it straight away and you need to rest for some time before you can do so again then you cannot be said to complete that descriptor. Or if it takes you twice as long as an able bodied person you cannot complete the descriptor
    Dressing and undressing : If your medication takes some hours to work in the morning and you cannot dress without assisstance because of this then this needs to be taken into account

    Go through each descriptor one at a time and see how these factors may apply
    You should look at each activity and break it down into sections and apply the reliability factors to each section

    For example Preparing food

    Can you do so ?  ( safely, realiably, to an acceptable standard and in a timely manner )
    If not, why not ?
    What is it about your condition that stops you doing so ?
    Can you do so if you have help or and aid ?
    What happens if you don't have help or an aid 

    Do this for each descriptor for your MR

    There is a template that you can used for the MR


    and some additional information


    You have a month from the date on your decision letter to request an MR. You can do this by letter or phone. Be very aware of this date, do not miss the deadline. If you are waiting for further evidence, then you can ask that the decision is not made until you have submitted this. They may or may not do so.

    If you haven't asked for the report until now, it is unlikely to arrive before this date so make it clear that you will be sending further evidence and that they should wait before carrying out the MR until it is received.

    If you can get further relevant evidence you  should submit this but it is not essential. Often, it is not your evidence that is the problem but the way it is read ( or not )

    MR's can often take 8 weeks or more but may also be done very quickly and before your new evidence is received. If this happens you can ask for the decision to be looked at again taking into account your new evidence.

    MR's have a low rate of success at present but this stage has to be completed in order to advance to the appeal tribunal.

    There is lots of good info on this site about appeals so please have a look around


    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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