re: Backdated Severe Disability Premium REJECTED

binbash

Hi everyone
I hope You're all doing well. I just wanted to update you that after a Mandatory recognition ( 7 months ago ) im now told that 1 ) Iwas not entitled to it because If somebody was claiming carers Allowance for me and 2) I was claiming Carers Allowance for someone ?? and 3 I had to be on enhanced PIP or DLA .

Can someone pls clarify what's right and what's wrong as I was told that even if somebody was caring for me and receiving CA or I was receiving CA for someone else then I could still receive SDP

have policies changed or what's happened since 2010 for them to say no- but are they right.

Any input would be great I rang Disability Cambridgeshire who are not taking on new cases and cAB is busy and so im left alone thinking what I should do.if I have evidence for a strongwomen enough case I certainly will write back to them to reconsider but only ith strong evidence.im too poorly at the moment to think otherwise.

Best Wishes

BinBash Butterly - Keep well 

poppy123456

You will not be entitled to SDP if someone was claiming either carers allowance or carers element of Universal Credit for looking after you. Same advice given on your other thread here https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/105307/hi-my-name-is-binbash-im-literally-battling-with-the-severe-disability-premium-team#latest

You claiming carers allowance for looking after someone else will not affect entitlement to SDP.

Was someone claiming either of those for looking after you? 

Were you living alone or treated as living alone? (No other adults living with you, unless they also claim a qualifying disability benefit their self) 

Criteria for SDP has never changed, it’s always been the same. 

binbash

hi 
Thanks for that. im told that in 2012 CA was being paid to me to look after my son 
then it States that my other son was receiving CA to care for me in 1/7/2013
currently no-one is receiving cA for me

therefore should I have been receiving SDP from 2012 - 2013 if I was receiving CA to look after my other son?

Have you heard of the Bexbi rReport? as they had requested this as my claim from 2008 onwards was clerical.

its all confusing for me to be honest as I cannot think as far back as that and I've not been given a copy of the Bexbi report for me to look further

Thanks 

poppy123456

Your other son claiming carers allowance for looking after you will mean you won’t be entitled to SDP at that time. 

Sorry, I’ve never heard of the Bexbi report. 

Who are you currently living with? Are you receiving SDP now? 

WhatThe

BExBI Business Expenditure Business Information

No idea why they mentioned this so ask them

chiarieds

There's a reply on this thread about BExBI by Geoark: https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/78348/hi-im-kenngordon-can-anyone-direct-me-to-the-bexby-report

WhatThe

Hi binbash,

As I can't comment on the closed thread, let me confirm that you did mention a visual impairment at 4.24pm and the responses which followed must have been maddening!

Let's hope Scope's review acknowledges this and that the posters apologise for adding to your distress.

poppy123456

WhatThe said:

Hi binbash,

As I can't comment on the closed thread, let me confirm that you did mention a visual impairment at 4.24pm and the responses which followed must have been maddening!

Let's hope Scope's review acknowledges this and that the posters apologise for adding to your distress.

Please post a link to the comment that was made at 4.24 pm that said they had a visual impairment. The only comment i can see related that was this one. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/722048#Comment_722048 to which i responded. There were no comments before that, that mentioned any visual impairment.

I won't be apologising for something i didn't do!

WhatThe

binbash wrote -

Hi Everyone
Re; Bexby Report.
Yes Geoark is correct. I only ever heard of it recently when my Support Worker asked them to look into a backdated payment for me and said they could not as it was a Clerical claim. then came back after 7 months and rejected my claim saying that they had a log of my benefits in this BEXBY Report which states everything I have received by means of benefit it can go back years.

However , looking at my claim its not actually correct and so I need help to write back to ESA.
I rang disability Cambridgeshire but they're not taking on any more cases and so im stuck who can help me- any suggestions? I have visual impairment and hand disability.

Also cab I ask Geoark as Benefit claimants can we ask for for a copy of they Bexby report from ESA ?

chiarieds

Unfortunately we must have missed that mention. It does get a bit confusing when members post about the same issue on separate threads. I'm sorry I missed it, but could see that poppy was only trying to help.

WhatThe

If you've missed my point after missing the reference to a visual impairment then I won't squabble here or else this discussion will be closed! 

WhatThe

Well, I'm glad you edited your original response to me and I hope you will direct your apology to binbash on the other thread once it's re-opened. Thank you

poppy123456

I checked several times yesterday before making my comment and still didn't see it. I won't apologise for trying my hardest to help someone.

chiarieds

I have said I'm sorry I missed their comment, what else can I say? I could however see that poppy hadn't been rude at all, & was only trying to help as usual, so the OP's comment was inappropriate. I think you've been here long enough to see how much poppy helps people in her free time.

Perhaps I should add that I also have a visual impairment namely nystagmus due to Chiari 1 Malformation associated with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome in some with the latter disorder, which is why my user name is chiarieds. It was nothing more than a genuine mistake & I'm sorry you can't see that.

poppy123456

I was just looking at that thread that was closed again and i stand by what i said. That comment that was made at 5.24 wasn't there when i commented at 5.57. Sometimes comments get caught in the spam filter and when this happens it prevents comments from being posted. They will then be posted shortly after or when a member of the scope team allow them to be posted.

I'm wondering if @Adrian_Scope can please confirm this. The comment in question is this one. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/722038#Comment_722038

Adrian_Scope

WhatThe said:

Hi binbash,

As I can't comment on the closed thread, let me confirm that you did mention a visual impairment at 4.24pm and the responses which followed must have been maddening!

Let's hope Scope's review acknowledges this and that the posters apologise for adding to your distress.

Hello @WhatThe. I do understand your intent was to clear up a misunderstanding, but when discussions are paused it is done so everyone can cool off, so it is generally discouraged to continue it elsewhere. Thank you for bringing the post to everyone's attention.

@Binbash it is a shame disability Cambridgeshire aren't currently taking new clients. Have you tried advicelocal? If you put your postcode in it can show you other benefit support services in your area. 

I'm not familiar with the BExBI/BEXBY report but I'm wondering if doing a subject access / GDPR request to the DWP would get you the information you require? 

I'm sorry you felt that members were rude to you, it seems there was a few crossed wires. It isn't always easy to read intent or infer tone over written text but I don't think anyone intended to be rude. When conversations take place over multiple discussions it can be difficult to follow and to know what has or hasn't been read. 

If you're able to answer @poppy123456's questions above we can hopefully offer more help. I've copied the questions below for ease:

Who are you currently living with? Are you receiving SDP now? 

As mentioned, you won't be able to receive SDP for the period in which someone was claiming Carer's Allowance for you. Whether you were eligible the rest of the time will depend on your other circumstances at the time. Was there anyone else living with you? How old were your sons in 2012?

poppy123456 said:

I'm wondering if @Adrian_Scope can please confirm this. The comment in question is this one. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/722038#Comment_722038

Hi @poppy123456, this can happen on occasion but doesn't appear to be the case with this particular post. However, I know in the past I've responded to a discussion and not noticed a new reply, especially if there are multiple from the same user. It's also really easy to miss a sentence or parts of a post, I know I do it all the time. 

Moderator note:

I've made the decision to keep the other discussion closed as it's part of an older discussion and having two running will only further confuse things. Hopefully now everything has been cleared up this topic can continue in a constructive manner. 

WhatThe

Adrian, this is not about me and but another person who might have felt she was being gaslit. She may have unsubscribed for all I know.

I'm visually impaired but read the post properly and the insistent responses.

This has become convoluted, repetitive and long posts don't help anyone with visual impairment. Simple mistakes should be simple to put right without so much fuss!  

   

WhatThe

Moderator, it's confusing because the discourse is here while the original thread remains closed 

chiarieds

@WhatThe - I believe Adrian has cleared up this misunderstanding with the minimum of fuss. I honestly missed binbash's comment about having a visual impairment, which I've already said.

WhatThe said:

Moderator, it's confusing because the discourse is here while the original thread remains closed 

This was the original thread, from which I then linked to a 2 year old comment by Geoark as I hoped it may be helpful; this older thread was closed by Adrian to avoid any confusion. Perhaps with your visual impairment you also made a simple mistake....

poppy123456

In all fairness they were extremely rude with their response to me after i tried to help them and not just on 1 thread i may add.

You're still referring to a thread that's remaining closed. I already told you that i didn't see the comment and Adrian has came on to respond to that. There's nothing further to add here so i'll also leave it there.

WhatThe

So now I'm being attacked for your shortcomings?  

I didn't use my visual impairment as an excuse - that was you.  

There's no need to be rude, personal or impatient with any member. Nor is it my job to highlight examples.

Adrian managed to see what were glaring errors and understood my motive for pointing them out.