Hi, I'm kemistry_23! Confused as to if I'll get LCWRA arrears?

kemistry_23

I have seen so much info regarding this matter lol here we go LCWRA is the topic and i will try and keep it simple . Basically i first claimed uc with fit note ie sick note when i was moved from esa in may 2017 have handed in fit note all this time in 2018 had assesment face 2 face was deemed fit for work i appleled got no where carried on handing in fit notes have had another assesment this year march this time have just beeen informed via my journal that i have LCWRA now i have seen the 3 month period thing still cannot make sense . All i want to know is can anybody tell me if i get back dated from 2017 . I waited 10 weeks for decsion after assement . The decsion came the same date as i made my claim in 2017 so that is 48 months . Is that what back pay i can expect 48 months ? Less the 3 or whatever makes 45 month back pay ? Am i correct? Thanks in advance

calcotti

What group were you in when you were on ESA? Initially that status should have transferred across to UC. The 2018 assessment would presumably have been a reassessment. You say you appealed the 2018 outcome - what was the result of that? I don't see how you deduce that your assessment is 48 months from when you transferred, according to your own narrative you have had two assessments in this time in 2018 and march 2021.

kemistry_23

I was in work support group on esa from what i can remember all i know is my uc claim started in may 2017 i have been supplying medical evidence since 2017 all i would like to know is how long is it the LCWRA i have just been awarrd backdated till? Thankyou

kemistry_23

The outcome of the appeal was fit for work please read original post properly as it states the outcome fit for work hence carried on handing in fit notes until another assesment this time over the phone bk in march this year .although i sent the questionire of in sept 2020

kemistry_23

Never mind all that i have been awarded LCWRA i been claiming uc with medical evidence since 2017 when will the back pay be back dated till ? Thankyou

kemistry_23

If the back pay is paid 4th month after supplying medical evidence and i supplied medical evidence 48 months ago and continuesly since . How muck back pay is due ? Thankyou

calcotti

kemistry_23 said:

Never mind all that ..

The history matters because that determines the answer to your question. I was not asking questions just for the sake of it. I did read your post but I found it difficult to follow.

kemistry_23 said:.. in 2018 had assesment face 2 face was deemed fit for work i appleled got no where 

So I now understand that ‘got nowhere’ means that after appeal you were still found to be fit for work.

You will not get anything backdated to 2017. 

The next question is what prompted the assessment in March 2021. Did you report a deterioration in your health, and if, so when?

kemistry_23

In sept 2020 i was sent out another questionire then had assesment march 2021

calcotti

kemistry_23 said:

In sept 2020 i was sent out another questionire then had assesment march 2021

Had you reported a change in your health condition that prompted the issue of the questionnaire in September 2020? Sorry for more questions but the history you describe is odd. Normally if you have been found fit for work you would be expected to look for work and not to send in Fit Notes..

kemistry_23

Yes but my work coach is very good and undrstood my gp kept giving me fit notes so i kept on handing them in my work coach turned off all work search or commitments i suppose until outcome of this just trying to get an idea of how much back pay to expect thsnks

calcotti

I think it likely that you will have to wait three months from the date of decision before the LCWRA element is payable - but I am not certain. I would not expect any backdating.

kemistry_23

No back dating? I think that you could be wrong . Why no back dating ?

kemistry_23

Everywhere on the internet even on the government's own website it states that LCWRA will be back dated 3 months after medical evidence ie sick notes was provided.  i just am not 100 per cent what that excactly means and neither are you by the looks off it . I Will just wait and see . Thsnks anyway

calcotti

kemistry_23 said:

No back dating? I think that you could be wrong . Why no back dating ?

Because you were found Fit for Work. This decision does not change the previous decision although it now replaces it for the future.

If you had reported a deterioration in your health the start of the three month period would be the date on which you notified the change. Based on what you have said that appears not to be the case. Indeed it isn’t clear why you were issued with a new UC50.

Possibly the three month period will start from September when the UC50 was issued, in which case there would some arrears due from about December 2020, but it really isn't clear.

kemistry_23

Ok thankyou yes that makes a bit of sense thankyou

kemistry_23

At least from jan this year i should be back dated form was sent bk sept 20 . 3 months brings us to jan 2021 but that form and assesment i waited over a year for so who knows

calcotti

kemistry_23 said:

At least from jan this year i should be back dated form was sent bk sept 20 . 3 months brings us to jan 2021 but that form and assesment i waited over a year for so who knows

I am not clear why you think you waited a year for the form. Having been found Fit for Work you would not normally be sent another form unless you reported a change in your condition which you said you did not do.

kemistry_23

Ok ive just looked through my journal in 2018 i was assesed as having some Limeted  capability i appealed this and in 2019 i had a mandortary decsion refused so again just checkrd my journal have carried on from then until now handing in fit notes had another assesment via phone because of pandemic lots of my assesments was cancelled finnaly got decsion 10 weeks later with LCWRA says i will be told in 7 working days how and when i will get any money owed

calcotti

kemistry_23 said:.. in 2018 i was assesed as having some Limeted  capability 

That changes things. It means there is no three month wait. However I am still uncertain when LCWRA will be applied from.

kemistry_23

Very confusing yes thsnks anyway the waiting game continues

Cher_Alumni

Hi @kemistry_23

This does sound like a confusing situation and I hope you get an update soon.  Just to let you know, I've moved your thread to our Universal Credit category and slightly amended the title to help others better anticipate what its about Also, if you could keep us updated that would be fab.  Fingers crossed you won't be waiting too long.