Hi, my name is Toffee2022! I'm stressed with the outcome of my PIP assessment.

Toffee2022

Hello I hope everyone is good . I'm not in a good place I had pip assessment via video and she did not listen to what I said she did report and pip went with what she said a lot of it is rubbish . I'm so upset and it's stressing me out.

poppy123456

You can challenge that decision by first requesting the Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) within 1 month of the decision of the decision.

You should put your request in writing stating where and why you think you should have scored those points. Timescales for MR decision are between 2-12 weeks, sometimes longer.

The most likely outcome of the MR is the decision will remain the same, if this happens you can proceed with Tribunal.

Toffee2022

Thank you I will contact them Monday. On mobility I got standard I got this when went to tribunal.i can't follow route of a journey without being accompanied. I last left my home on my own on 22nd July 2021 this was last day I went to work I left month later. Now they say I can't go on any journey as would cause me distress. I can go on a journey as long as I'm with my husband I told them this and they come up with that I should get 12 points not 10.

poppy123456

What exactly were you awarded?

For following and planning a journey, how often are you able to go out with your husband?

A claimant who satisfies 1E cannot also satisfy 1F. If they cannot undertake a single journey on the majority of days due to overwhelming psychological distress, then 1E will be the applicable descriptor, even if there are occasions when they could follow a familiar route, if accompanied.

Toffee2022

I have a bad shoulder and arm left one have since march 2022. I have seen physio once .I have another appointment coming up.i can't get in and out of bath on my own my husband helps. He washes my hair I can't do it one handed very well. He has  to help me undress upper body as my shoulder in a lot of pain I'm limited what can do with it . He helps dress my upper body. I can dress lower body just need help pulling up trousers on left side because of left shoulder. They said I need promoting to wash or bath and also promoting to dress or undress . 

Toffee2022

They say because I can get  in and out of car I have adequate strength in my upper body. I do not use left arm get in car I use right same to get out. I have not cooked for many years my mental health is bad I have no incentive to do anything. They put I need promoting to be able cook simple meal. My husband died all cooking he gets my breakfast lunch dinner he brings to me in my bedroom this is where. I live most of time where I feel safe. I'm frustrated as they not listening to me and how I'm struggling with my left arm and shoulder. I'm going to speak to my doctor do you think she be able to help me with pip. 

poppy123456

You didn't answer the questions i asked here.

poppy123456 said:

What exactly were you awarded?

Or this one.

poppy123456 said:

For following and planning a journey, how often are you able to go out with your husband?

Toffee2022

Hi I was awarded  10 points for daily and 10 mobility . I already had 11 daily and 10 mobility. My husband works 5 days a week. If he finishes early we will go out . If not we go out on days he off go visit my son and daughter and my grandchildren . I have 6 although my first granddaughter was still born at 36 weeks she is called lissi she is my angel. She would be 10 this year I don't go out on my own I can't as anxiety so high.

Toffee2022

I'm going back through all my paperwork I've ever had since pip started march 24th 2021. My award goes to October 2025

Toffee2022

I have been away 5 times this year few days each time . Went to Great Yarmouth I love it there my favourite place has been last 23 years. First time was June husband birthday july wedding anniversary August my birthday took Emilia with us she is coming up for 5 next month then again in. August with belle she is 7 and then September was last time abit of us time after having 2 granddaughters i can't leave home on my own I don't know why they said I can't go on any journey I can as long as with my husband

Toffee2022

I have no issue going on any journey as long as I'm with my husband . .familiar or unfamiliar 

Cher_Alumni

@Toffee2022 Hello there and a warm welcome to our online community, how are you today?

I'm sorry to hear that you're unhappy with the points you were allocated in your PIP assessment. The mandatory reconsideration is the best route to redress this, by giving 2 to 3 examples from your daily life of times where you have struggled to complete the activities described. These should ideally include details such as who was there, where it happened, what the activity was, what your difficulties were and how your husband had to assist you to complete the task reliably.  

Also, I wonder if you think that a social care needs assessment would be beneficial to help with some of the everyday tasks you struggle with. You can apply for this online via this government webpage and some of the services that might be offered as a result of this are:

• home care help with things like cleaning and shopping

• disability equipment and adaptations to your home

• day centres to give you or the person who cares for you a break

Just for your info: I've tweaked the title of your thread and moved it to our PIP, DLA and AA category to help others see it and reply.

All the best with your mandatory reconsideration and please keep us updated with how you get on. 

Toffee2022

Hi thank you for that I spoke to go yesterday she didn't even know what going through she put on sick note moderate depression that's not diagnosis. I've not taken my meds for 6 days I'm in same clothes since Friday and I've not washed . My husband has asked me to take my meds same as doctor did. I have 12 weeks of councling treatment starting Monday . Hour sessions via video link. This is with healthy minds 

Tori_Scope

Hi @toffee2022! I've just sent you an email from community@scope.org.uk about this, so please do keep an eye out for that if you can  

Toffee2022

Hi please can anyone tell me where I can get help with my mandatory reconsideration. . Doctors are no help was referred to someone they don't help with pip. I need to fight to what I'm entitled to get. I need someone believe me. I just stay in bed I don't want to do anything.  I not bathed now for a week and I not taking medication  7 days so feeling pretty rough and very low. Any help or advice be greatly appreciated.

Alex_Alumni

Hello there @Toffee2022 I'm sorry to read you're not getting the support you need at the moment, things must be difficult right now.

A good place to go for help with Mandatory Reconsideration is Advice Local, you can search under 'welfare benefits' for professional advisers local to you. Turn2Us also explains the process clearly, to help you challenge the decision you've been given on your PIP.

If you'd like to speak to someone over the phone, you'd be welcome to call the Scope Helpline, who can run through things with you. 

You've mentioned your doctor won't help with PIP, but do they know how you've been feeling this last week? If you're struggling with things, or your medication isn't agreeing with you, you can talk to them about support and any alternative treatments. 

We'd like to help support you as much as we can too, @Tori_Scope sent you an email yesterday, so please do have a read if you've missed it, and let us know if we can help any further

Alex

calcotti

Try https://advicelocal.uk/

Toffee2022

Hi I feel so low I've had enough with pip.i spoke with lady last Thursday she said she was looking at my mandatory reconcideration.i would get decision in 7 to 10 days through post. I found out yesterday letter was sent on 25th November. Was told decision has stayed the same . I sent in loads of evidence and I might as well sent blank bits of paper they have took no notice. I was told can take it to a tribunal and letter will tell me how too.im so angry they are a joke.

Toffee2022

Today I have x-ray booked on my left  shoulder and arm I have constant pain and I've had this since beginning march this year.i sent in information from physio therapist I can't get in out bath unaided. Friday evening I got stuck in bath couldn't get out 15 mins it took withy husband's help.i can't dress or undress myself my husband helps me. I told them I've not left this house on my own since 22nd July 2021. I cant go on any journey familiar on my own or unfamiliar. I have to be accompanied.. They say I need promoting to get dressed undressed promoting to have a bath I can't even wash my hair my husband does it.

poppy123456

It's not unusual for the MR decision not to change because only 27% of them do. Your next step is to take it to Tribunal, if you still disagree. However, before doing this i'd advise you to get some expert advice from an agency near you just to check it's possible to score more points for a higher award. Start here. https://advicelocal.uk/welfare-benefits

Alex_Alumni

I'm sorry to hear about what's happened @Toffee2022 as you say, your next step is a tribunal, and we can support you in finding some help with that.

Please do take some time to look after your wellbeing, as this news is bound to come as a knockback to say the least. When you feel ready, Turn2Us has a helpful overview of what happens at this stage if you still want to challenge the decision. 

It might also be helpful to seek some help from a professional adviser, you can search Advice Local, or look for your local Citizens Advice too.

If you'd like to talk things through on a one to one basis, you can also call or email the Scope Helpline, and speak to one of our advisers. 

If there's anything we've missed let us know, and keep us up to date with how it all goes. Please reach out if you need support, we're here for you