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ESA NI Contributions requirements clarifications

JohnSmith123
JohnSmith123 Member Posts: 3 Listener
Hello lovely people, I'm tearing my hair out over this and the DWP/HMRC are no help:

I am self employed and earning lower than required for mandatory NI contributions so I opted out.

In order to get ESA (Contributions based) I need to have paid my NI contributions.

1) What is the need for the first requirement of 26 weeks in the previous year when the second requirement seems to say you need 50 weeks in the last 2 years?

(Quote: in one of the last two complete tax years, you must have paid Class 1 or 2 contributions to the value of 26 times the lower earnings limit; and
in both of the last two complete tax years, you must have paid or been credited with, Class 1 or 2 contributions to the value of 50 times the lower earnings limit.)

2) Let's say I need to pay 50 weeks £113 and 50 weeks £116 (the last 2 tax years) worth of NI, is it really the case that I would need to send £5650 + £5800?!

Comments

  • Antonia_Alumni
    Antonia_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 1,781 Pioneering
    Hi @JohnSmith123

    Thank you for sharing this with us. Some of our members may be able to answer your questions soon. You may also want to get in touch with your local CAB for advice.
  • JohnSmith123
    JohnSmith123 Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Hi @JohnSmith123

    Thank you for sharing this with us. Some of our members may be able to answer your questions soon. You may also want to get in touch with your local CAB for advice.
    Thank you for your reply. I am aware of CAB however I really don't want to have to go down that route otherwise I'll go completely bald. x
  • Sam_Alumni
    Sam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,676 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @JohnSmith123
    I have asked the @BenefitsTrainingCo to take a look to see if they can help.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • JohnSmith123
    JohnSmith123 Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Thank you @Sam_Scope

    I guess the result of being on income based vs contributions based is ultimately the same... Uhh, this whole area is so murky for me to the point I can't figure out what to do and now they throw Universal Credit into the mix...
  • Sam_Alumni
    Sam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,676 Disability Gamechanger
    I hope we can help clear things up a bit soon :)
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • Antonia_Alumni
    Antonia_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 1,781 Pioneering
    Hi @JohnSmith123 how are you doing today? Oh no, definitely don't want you to go completely bald. :)

  • BenefitsTrainingCo
    BenefitsTrainingCo Member Posts: 2,628 Pioneering
    Hi JohnSmith123,

    To qualify for Contributory ESA (or new style ESA as it is now called) requires you to have paid at least 26 weeks of Class 1 or 2 contributions on earnings at the lower earnings limits in one of the last two complete tax years. There are some circumstances when contributions paid in any tax year are sufficient, e.g. if you had recently received careers allowance.

    in addition you must have paid or been credited with Class 1 or 2 contributions on earnings of 50 times the lower earnings limit in each of the last two complete tax years.

    Your sums are broadly correct if you have made no contributions whatsoever in the last two tax years.

    Two suggestions - making a claim is the only way to be sure if you meet the criteria. Secondly it may be better to have a full benefits check to see if there is anything else you may be entitled to. Citizens advice is a good place to start but there are also online calculators you could use at either entitledto.co.uk or turn2us.org.uk

    Good luck!

    Michael
    The Benefits Training Co:
    Paul Bradley
    Michael Chambers
    Will Hadwen
    Sarah Hayle
    Maria Solomon
    David Stickland

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