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Do you think I would win?

So I have social problems I haven't been out socially in about 9 years I have anger problems and try my best to control it. I end up talking to much due to stress and worry. I also have aspergus and according to my records autism. I have high anxiety low depression and a mental health nurse. The police and social work says I am a vulnerable adult.
Pip says I am fine gave me a 0 all the way and I said to them I disagree. It's now going to tribunal and I am wondering if anyone knows what I can do to show how my mental state and school had affected me and my life.
I had DLA for life just before they forced me to go to pip if that's any help.
Pip says I am fine gave me a 0 all the way and I said to them I disagree. It's now going to tribunal and I am wondering if anyone knows what I can do to show how my mental state and school had affected me and my life.
I had DLA for life just before they forced me to go to pip if that's any help.
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The DLA award isn't really any help as PIP are looking at different criteria. Have you looked at the PIP descriptors to see which ones apply to you? It sounds like you should at least score points for question 9, mixing with people.
Were you able to supply any evidence from the mental health nurse or the social worker about your daily needs? If not, that could be helpful. You could also a friend or relative to write a supporting letter if there are any that know you well enough?
Preparing food
I can do but as somehow I get forgetfull I use a microwave for ready made meals.
Managing your treatments
There is none it's a for life disability.
Communicating
I can do it but I sometimes end up saying offensive or hurtfull things and I don't take any social information and get carried away in talking.
Mixing with other people
I haven't been out in 9 years.
Making budgeting decisions.
I have direct debits and they go in same week as I am paid so I leave a big chuck of my money for that week so they get paid.
Planning and following a journey.
I don't go out and I find it scary to a extent interacting with people. I also can not stay at other places as I can't sleep.
Would that be enough information or would I need more? I think I can get family to help with proving it. But if it requires friends I cant as I got none
I think we can remove 'managing treatments' and 'budgeting' as it doesn't sound like you'll score any points for those. If you can leave a chunk of money to cover the direct debits, that's good budgeting!
Communicating - It doesn't really include accidentally offending people (if it did, I'd score full points haha!), so I don't think you'll score points there either.
Preparing food - I think you may struggle to score any points here. At best you could score 2 points for using the microwave rather than the oven but you would need to prove why that's necessary, just being a bit forgetful doesn't really count.
Mixing with other people - You should almost certainly get the full 8 points here. But you will need to explain why you find it difficult and what actually happens. Give a good solid example of what happened the last time you tried to mix with people, or what happens now if you were to try and mix with people. Is there a strong chance of you harming yourself or someone else out of anger for example?
Planning and following a journey doesn't include meeting other people, that's already covered above. Do you go out alone at all? Can you walk to the shops or the post office for example? Can you go out if someone else goes with you? Can you use Google Maps to find a route to the shops? Those questions are more relevant for that section.
If family can help with proof that's great, it doesn't need to be friends, just the more evidence you can get, the better really. If you can get any from the social worker or mental health team as well that would also help. In my opinion it does sound like you should at least be awarded standard daily living, but you will need to strengthen those points a bit and back them up with good evidence and examples!
I must stress I'm not the most knowledgeable person on here, so others may be able to offer better advice, but I have just won my tribunal based on similar conditions.
2 - with the best will in the world no-one can tell you whether you will get an award until they’ve spoken to you in depth and been able to assess your evidence. This is not the place to do that.
3 - contrary to the assertions above activity 3 is not just about meds. It’s also about therapy and that can include all manner of things such as listening therapies to manage anger etc.
If other people have specific ways to manage your anger and aggression for example that may well come into play.
4 - engagement is not about going out or mixing. That is completely wrong. Here is the wording for activity 9
” 9. Engaging with other people face to face.
b. Needs prompting to be able to engage with other people. 2 points.
c. Needs social support to be able to engage with other people. 4 points.
d. Cannot engage with other people due to such engagement causing either –
(i) overwhelming
psychological distress to the claimant; or
(ii) the claimant to exhibit behaviour which would result in a substantial risk of harm to the claimant or another person. 8 points.”
You’ll see there is no mention of going out or mixing. 9 is about forming relationships. So being able to talk to someone on a shop is neither here nor there. Your inability to read situations or react inappropriately will be very relevant here rather than on communication.
In terms of DLA I had it since I was 16 till start of this year so almost 10 years. I just got it permanently last year to.
Also in terms of talking with others I am great on a computer but face to face I got no idea what to do other than react to what people say. My convo starters are "hey how are you" and that's it. And I get scared when talking to people. I don't know it as showing emotions is difficult. Like very difficult.
(Example is my uncle died last week I used to play football with him and he come to our house often. But when I heard I knew I should be sad but I couldn't feel it or even cry)
These are examples of me in some cases. Honestly I am worse than you think with the info I provided on here but hey ho.
Again thanks for the information I will get as much of the medical things I have documented and brought with me. I will also look at the link you provided. At least tomorrow that is (12:32am)
You may also find https://pipinfo.net/ helpful as well as https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system. Both will help with a mandatory reconsideration. Use the official form to challenge the decision. You can find it at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/683380/if-you-disagree-with-a-decision-made-by-dwp.PDF
Mostly though go get advice from a professional adviser. Advice from other people who have claimed PIP can be hugely valuable but not when it’s misleading or plain wrong. People often believe their own claims are successful for reasons which are wholly incorrect but use that to advise others and it tends to end messily.
Splitting hairs re engaging. Q11 on the PIP2 questionnaire is headed mixing with other people, is it not?