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Mandatory reconsideration or keep what i have

Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
edited July 2019 in PIP, DLA and AA
I had my face to face 2 months ago when I got the decision 3 days ago they gave me 11 points for daily living and 10 points for Mobility but I see many many lies in the report I specifally told the medical person at face to face that I could not walk 20 to 30 meteres without having to stop for rest and in pain they gave me 0 for moving around but I got 10 points on familiar journey :/  anyhow I just don't know whether to do MR OR KEEP WHAT I HAVE I don't want to lose anything but I feel I could scrape enhanced also because the yhave lied on my report

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  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    Type yoI had my face to face 2 months ago when I got the decision 3 days ago they gave me 11 points for daily living and 10 points for Mobility but I see many many lies in the report I specifally told the medical person at face to face that I could not walk 20 to 30 meteres without having to stop for rest and in pain they gave me 0 for moving around but I got 10 points on familiar journey :/  anyhow I just don't know whether to do MR OR KEEP WHAT I HAVE I don't want to lose anything but I feel I could scrape enhanced also because the yhave lied on my reportur message
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    HI,

    That's a very difficult question to answer on an internet forum because no one knows exactly how your conditions affect you. The only person that knows this is yourself.

    When requesting the MR they look at the whole decision again, not just part of it. Whether there's any risk to your current award is impossible to know on an internet forum.  For this then you really should get some face to face advice. This link will help you know what's available in your local area. https://advicelocal.uk/

    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    IS IT POSSIBLE to lose what I already have though
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Yeah I believe they can take it away altogether, this is something I may need to decide when I get my decision through. (Someone correct me if I am wrong about that please).

    I would get some advice about it though, I have Welfare Rights ready to help if I need, they are going to help me with a complaint as well.
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    I spoke to citizens advice online but say I have to come in office but its hard to get there its hard getting to these places I might just leave it not worth the risk but then again 1 point away and lied aobut my walking so I don't know 
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    im already on support group esa so I may just leave as is besides they'll want to see me again anyway next year
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Yeah it's very stressful isn't it :/
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    it is unless your on double enhanced lol
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Nope, it's still stressful, I had enhanced/enhanced and the assessor that did my review was terrible, his report is full of discrepancies and contradictions, because of him my PIP award has probably been dropped to standard.
  • steve51steve51 Member Posts: 7,175 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Aaron34uk

    Good Afternoon & Welcome.

    Yes I faced the same dilemma last week with my "PIP"

    Like many members my "report" was full of "lies & fabrications"

    I did feel shall I stick with what I was given in the first place!!!!!

    As the report was that bad as it had know reflection on me at all. 

    So I have gone down the Manditory Reconsideration route.

    Please please let me know if you need any help with your's?????

    @steve51
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    That's actually a very good point and I'm glad you posted that @steve51 the assessor I had it pretty much trying to say I don't have mental health problems but there is evidence and the previous assessors report stating otherwise, he twisted it and tried to make it about my physical health problems and by looking at the report and adding the points together he's dropped my points by 10 in each, I had 18, I only have 8 in each now... So now I've read your post I think I will be going for a MR if the DM goes along with the report.
  • cristobalcristobal Member Posts: 966 Disability Gamechanger
    @WF2k - I'm interested how the assessor made the report about you physical problems.

    I'm assuming you that you gave examples of cognitive/ mental health type issues in your application...were these overlooked?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited June 2019
    @cristobal I think I've told you in other posts that I never filled my review form in, Welfare Rights did and I think I've explained that I'm not happy with them to you and others as well. I can't fill in forms due to poor concentration and attention span so I tend to try and get help with them.

    Edit - Here's the thread we were chatting on :) 

    https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/59580/pip-report#latest
  • cristobalcristobal Member Posts: 966 Disability Gamechanger
    @WF2K -  ...sorry I remember now (despite what my assessment says my memory isn't good!)

    I hope things turn out OK in the end ..
  • Pipquestions2Pipquestions2 Member Posts: 92 Pioneering
    cristobal said:
    @WF2k - I'm interested how the assessor made the report about you physical problems.

    I'm assuming you that you gave examples of cognitive/ mental health type issues in your application...were these overlooked?
    I think it's very common. My physical problems were listed on one page - the list your health conditions and disabilities page. On the descriptors pages of the form this focused on my mental health 

    My report and the assessment? Physical problems this, physical problems that. Despite my main problems being mental and that's where I struggle and meet the descriptors they focused on physical problems too much.

    Too much to the point I'm considering not even mentioning them in future so that they're forced to focus on my mental problems. 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited June 2019
    That's ok @cristobal no need to apologise and yes I know how that is having a bad memory! Thank you.

    @Pipquestions2 That didn't happen in my first assessment though, my MH was acknowledged and understood, it's this more recent assessment where the assessor has failed to understand the impact it has on me. 
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    sometimes its better not to do mr
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Aaron34uk said:
    sometimes its better not to do mr
    You should only request an MR if you meet the criteria for a higherr award and can provide relevant evidence to support your claim. You may already have done so but it hasn't been taken into account. In which case you need to ask for MR to be able to appeal to tribunal.
    Not everyone with an illness, disability or condition will meet the criteria for even a standard award, keep in mind that PIP is given to help with the additional costs of having a limiting condition and not as an extra ammount into the household finances.
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    I WILL LET everyone know what happens as im handing in my MR today
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    Aaron34uk said:
    sometimes its better not to do mr
    You should only request an MR if you meet the criteria for a higherr award and can provide relevant evidence to support your claim. You may already have done so but it hasn't been taken into account. In which case you need to ask for MR to be able to appeal to tribunal.
    Not everyone with an illness, disability or condition will meet the criteria for even a standard award, keep in mind that PIP is given to help with the additional costs of having a limiting condition and not as an extra ammount into the household finances.

    I think heamochromotosis and autism alone qualifies  I also have severe social and generalized anxieties

  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    i  some weird disease on feet and hands
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    most people don't add evidence they don't loo kat it anyway
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    PIP isn't about a diagnosis, it's how those conditions affect your ability to carry out daily activities based on the PIP descriptors.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    never said it was IVE SENT OF MY MR will let people know how it is
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Using capital letters is classed as shouting in text speak and is very difficult to read.

    Good luck with the MR but remember most decisions remain the same so you'll most likely have to take it to Tribunal.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    no it is not only to you because your the only person raging on here
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    so ill ignore raging comments any how i sent of MY MR IN WRITING and now ill have to wait will let everyone know what happened
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Aaron34uk said:
    no it is not only to you because your the only person raging on here
    I'm not sure why you think that.....
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Okie dokie @Aaron34uk I hope it works out well for you! :)
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Aaron34uk said:
    no it is not only to you because your the only person raging on here

    Aaron34uk said:
    so ill ignore raging comments any how i sent of MY MR IN WRITING and now ill have to wait will let everyone know what happened
    P[ease be mindful of the community guidelines, all members should be treated with respect. The community champions, like poppy123456, give freely of their time and knowledge to help other people
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,652 Disability Gamechanger
    edited June 2019
    Hi,

    Thank you everyone for your great advice.

    Please can I just remind all members to be respectful of each other. Not doing so breaks community guidelines and users doing so will receive warnings. 

    The community is a supportive place and I hope you all can benefit from the advice that others provide.

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  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    we are being respectful it was just how it sounded
  • Aaron34ukAaron34uk Member Posts: 23 Listener
    cristobal said:
    @WF2k - I'm interested how the assessor made the report about you physical problems.

    I'm assuming you that you gave examples of cognitive/ mental health type issues in your application...were these overlooked?
    I think it's very common. My physical problems were listed on one page - the list your health conditions and disabilities page. On the descriptors pages of the form this focused on my mental health 

    My report and the assessment? Physical problems this, physical problems that. Despite my main problems being mental and that's where I struggle and meet the descriptors they focused on physical problems too much.

    Too much to the point I'm considering not even mentioning them in future so that they're forced to focus on my mental problems. 

    its silly isent it they never look at the whole picture and they should do I was shocked when I seen 0 points for moving around  when I told them I clearly cannot walk far atall I guess il have to wait 10 weeks not for MR desicion

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