Filling in PIP

Joe1999

Hi everyone
I am diagnosed with Depression and Anxiety FM OA and Scoliosis. I‘m confused about filling in this form and the descriptors. For Cooking and Washing I both need persuading and assistance to do this. Can anyone advise as to which one I answer to?

chiarieds

Hi @Joe1999 - The PIP form certainly is a bit daunting, & you do end up repeating yourself quite a lot. Just explain the difficulties you have, & why. Altho you would get the same points for needing prompting or assistance, you don't have to say that it's one or the other, so if you need both, do say.

If you can, for each of the descriptors that applies, give a couple of examples of the difficulties you face for each. Say for example why you need help, what you need help with; how often do you need this help, what happens if you don't have it; can you do something safely; do you lack motivation, is it painful, & if so where; can you repeat the activity as often as you'd like; does it fatigue you either during, or after the activity; can you do it to an acceptable standard, does it take you longer than someone who doesn't have your disabilities, etc?

There's some info in the following link which gives guidance about filling the form in. See: https://www.mentalhealthandmoneyadvice.org/en/welfare-benefits/pip-mental-health-guide/help-with-your-pip-claim/how-to-fill-in-the-pip-form/

I hope some of this helps, & do ask more questions if needed, as there's usually someone here who will try to help.

mikehughescq

See here. https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/56365/pip-form-filling#latest

The key thing is that you don't have to make a choice. Just give a practical real world example of when you needed prompting and assistance. 

Joe1999

Thank you so much. The problem I was having is that I need prompting and assistance due to chronic pain. That’s why I was struggling to pick what descriptors to use to the form. I’ll just give examples of my day to day situation and see what happens. 

janer1967

Him @Joe1999 Welcome to the community, its good you have been given the advice you were looking for it really can be daunting.
Good luck with the claim and keep us updated

Joe1999

Thank you and I certainly will.

katho31

hi @Joe1999, welcome  there are some really beneficial links that adrian/chloe scope and other members can give you the link to, they are truly amazing in telling you what you should/shouldnt write on app forms, also for PIP applications you must explain how your chronic pain etc impacts on you daily activities/dangers when attempting tasks/you lack of ability to carry out everday/basic tasks in a safe way. good luck, stay safe and best wishes

Joe1999

Hi @katho31 that would be absolutely fantastic. Have you any idea how I could get them as I honestly find this form really daunting. I have no idea what to say or not say and what descriptor to pick for the best.

katho31

Hi @Joe1999, if you hang on a little while, another member will help you i promise, im still unsure how to click on a helpline to post it to yours, anything else i will try be best to help, what i do know is you cant put ie; "Ive got arthritis and it hurts", it is NOT the disability itself, it is the way your illness/disability/anxiety/depression etc prevents you SAFELY carrying out a certain chore/activity day to day, you may feel anxious? so they want to know what happens to your body, sweating, overwhelmed,shaking, unable to think rationally,feeling as if you are having a complete meltdown. please keep online for a while and someone will hep you who is more informed 

Joe1999

Thank you so much. I really do struggle more with my pain with my condition hence I don’t know what to say to really get my point across. I really do appreciate your help.

Chloe_Scope

Hi @Joe1999, how are you today?

It's great that you have been looking at the descriptors when filling out your PIP form. I would suggest that you mention both prompting and assisting. You can only meet one criteria for each descriptor, but saying both will give them more background.

I hope this helps.

katho31

hi has anyone online got anymore help for @Joe1999? thanks

mikehughescq

Read the links already posted, They are more than enough.

Awesomelorenzo

I couldn't even fill in the form. None of it applied to me. The cooking part was confusing. I've never actually tried to fend for myself and cook...or do anything else for that matter. Don't know whether I could do it or not.

mikehughescq

If you’ve never attempted an activity then it’s just a case of saying that and explaining in detail why not. If it’s related to your ill health and means you can’t do it at all or reliably then you score points. If it’s not then you don’t. Same applies to all other activities.