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Has anyone experienced DWP deducting PiP points away days before a telephone tribunal?

misurrepeanutmisurrepeanut Member Posts: 7 Listener
edited July 2020 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi there I'm nervous enough about my tribunal phone appointment on Thursday 9th July and I have received a letter three days before my tribunal stating that DWP have looked at my mandatory consideration claim and taken my 5 points away to give me a new score of 0 from a new assessor. How can they review my Mandatory Consideration? Please can someone give me some help


  • misurrepeanutmisurrepeanut Member Posts: 7 Listener
    DWP have taken points off my mandatory consideration. I was going into the tribunal thinking I'd scored more  now after a years wait I am left with a short letter detailing no points. Please tell me there not allowed to do this
  • dawny63dawny63 Member Posts: 35 Connected
    Bless you. Have seen that done somewhere  else online.  That's horrible.  My husband  got 0 points on his award. Just starting  a M R. Nothing awarded  so nothing  to lose.  
  • CressidaCressida Member Posts: 770 Pioneering
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,941 Disability Gamechanger
    A decision can be reviewed and revised at any time. In the scheme of things this doesn’t mean as much as you think it might. The reality is that when you have an appeal you are metaphorically walking into the room with zero points anyway as it’s a complete rehearing of your claim.

    So, can they do this? Yes.

    Can it damage your appeal? Potentially, but the tribunal are going to make up their own mind anyway. There’s no way of second guessing that so prep for your appeal as though you have zero points because you effectively would have anyway.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,941 Disability Gamechanger
    You d posted the quest twice. I have answered on the other thread. 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,924

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    Best of luck with the tribunal tomorrow @misurrepeanut. Try not to let the revision letter deter you. Please let us know how you get on. :)
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  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 865 Pioneering
    Just want to wish you well for tomorrow, I really hope it goes good, let’s know how you get on take care. 
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,652 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @misurrepeanut, I really hope it went okay yesterday. :)
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  • misurrepeanutmisurrepeanut Member Posts: 7 Listener
    Couldn't have gone better. I was very well prepared. Don't know if I gave them enough evidence at the end though. As they said they were ready to finish and I had more evidence to give. But the judge was nice and the doctors and specialists were polite. Very glad I got the chance to give my story to someone
  • Lou67Lou67 Member Posts: 865 Pioneering
    Oh that’s great so glad it went well for you, you can relax a bit now 😊
  • Lulu_1949Lulu_1949 Member Posts: 225 Pioneering
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,941 Disability Gamechanger
    Guessing the revised MR didn’t feature then?

    FWIW if a tribunal bring things to an end in a way which feels slightly premature to you it’s rarely much ti worry about. It simply means they’ve heard enough to make a clear decision whatever that might be.
  • davegregson40davegregson40 Member Posts: 81 Pioneering
    Yes I had points deducted and had to go to an appeal following the mandatory decision refusal. Documentary and medical evidence is vital. From when I did mine the assessors are not medically trained and are private contractors. When I sid mine it was not designed for people with mental health and I got help from citizens advice. The thing is to be honest and show the day that you're having your worst where prompts and help is essential to managing a condition that affects your life dsily 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,941 Disability Gamechanger
    @davegregson40 all HCPs are medically trained and almost all will have alternative employment within the NHS. There’s no requirement for a doctor style medical qualification because the PIP assessment is not a medical. It’s a conversation about functional impairment. Whilst it’s true to say the process serves mental ill health fairly poorly it’s important to remember that the process is also not designed with one specific type of impairment in mind. 
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