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poppy123456
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I have remained in contact with some friends i've made here since i left. One person being @woodbine who i've known for a few years from another forum. This kind hearted gentleman is such a lovely man, whom i have the upmost respect for. Last night he emailed me because he was so distraught and extremely upset by what had happened here on the community yesterday. He wanted me to see something he wanted to post here but didn't know if admin would let it through and he was correct, it hasn't been posted, which is extremely sad. A grown man being treated like a little child! I asked him if he wanted me to post it on his behalf and he said he would be very grateful if i could, so here it is.... just incase anyone is wondering, no i haven't returned, i'm here purely to support my dearest friend... John. Hugs to both you and Julie from me!
I'm
not sure the moderators will sanction this as they have already refused
to publish some of the help I have given tonight. But I wonder do they
realise just
how utterly degrading it is to go to the trouble of writing out a reply
only to see that it won't be published until "somebody" approves it? It
makes me feel like a three year old.
I'm told my moderation will last until they think I am a fit and proper person to partake in the usual way, that makes me feel sick to my stomach, this whole thing is making me feel ill. All at a time when I have the threat of being told I have cancer dangling over my head.
I'm also threatened with being told I am to be chucked off scope, something that for me like many others has been a lifeline to me over the past year, and yet they think its there's to take from me.
You might ask why? Well it's all because I dare from time to time call it as i see it, no mention of the hundreds of my post that have been flagged as "liked" or inspiring, that's all gone in the scope dustbin.
I hope who does hold this power over me has the bottle to "approve" this post and that the real powers that be read it and realise exactly what has been done to me here.
I hope I get the chance to be with you again, but if I don't then at least now you will know the reason, that being very simple some peoples mental welfare is thought to be more important to scope than mine.
good night
John
I'm told my moderation will last until they think I am a fit and proper person to partake in the usual way, that makes me feel sick to my stomach, this whole thing is making me feel ill. All at a time when I have the threat of being told I have cancer dangling over my head.
I'm also threatened with being told I am to be chucked off scope, something that for me like many others has been a lifeline to me over the past year, and yet they think its there's to take from me.
You might ask why? Well it's all because I dare from time to time call it as i see it, no mention of the hundreds of my post that have been flagged as "liked" or inspiring, that's all gone in the scope dustbin.
I hope who does hold this power over me has the bottle to "approve" this post and that the real powers that be read it and realise exactly what has been done to me here.
I hope I get the chance to be with you again, but if I don't then at least now you will know the reason, that being very simple some peoples mental welfare is thought to be more important to scope than mine.
good night
John
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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I’d just like to say that you have my support @woodbine and that of many others on the forum. It’ll all blow over soon I’ve no doubt.
good luck next week too.“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.”
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@poppy123456 thanks for sharing
@woodbine I truly get how you are feeling and you have my support . I do understand the team have to moderate but I tend to agree there is no consideration for old standing members loyalty and what they have contributed over the years . I ho9e you wont be another one we lose . Take care Jane x -
Hi @woodbine, I found it very touching that Poppy1234 came to your defence. True friends do support each other!
I'm sure that your contribution has been valued by many over the years.
I have to be honest and say that I nearly left the forum altogether after being unfairly criticised when in fact I had meant no harm at all. But then I decided simply to ignore unfriendly or unfairly critical posts and not bother to reply to them.
I now just reply to genuinely nice people!!!
Take care, Woodbine. Lovely to hear from you, Poppy, it's very decent of you to speak up for Woodbine. -
What a wonderful friend you are @poppy123456, it is such a shame that a few remarks have been taken out of context. @woodbine please don't despair too much you are a much appreciated member with a heart of gold.
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I've just popped on to show both my support & respect for @woodbine , someone who has helped so many people who have come to the forum, & who has also been kind enough to show me support.I am just about lost for words that he has been put on moderation; I think I'm even more upset over this, than the upset I've felt recently over the way this forum is going........we certainly seem to be fast losing that sense of community; something which matters to us all, including Poppy.You know you have my best wishes, John, & always will.
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I've just had another email from @woodbine who has asked me again if i would add to this thread for him because his comments are not being posted. He said he wants to thank everyone for all your support, it means alot!
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
@poppy123456 @woodbine @chiarieds I just wanted to add my bit. Firstly it's lovely to see Poppy back even if it is only temporarily! Chiarieds great to see you too. I'm not sure who made the decision to 'moderate' Woodbine. It would have been bad enough at any time but to do this AFTER he has posted on this very forum that he has been given a 'rapid' hospital appointment in the following week. We are continually being told that Scope support people but they are doing the exact opposite in this case. I read another post earlier where Mike [removed by moderator] had posted and it really sounds like he is at the end of his tether. So Scope have managed to alienate Poppy, Woodbine, Chiarieds and Mike who are (in my humble opinion) 4 of the most knowledgeable disability gamechangers on this forum. (No disrespect to any of the other gamechangers meant). I have been on this forum for around 18 months and in that time these are 4 posters who until recently were always around to answer queries. Their knowledge is extensive. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this forum who would not have received the correct benefits without their help. If they disappear WHO is going to fill the gap. I have always been amazed at their patience when suffering abuse from posters who don't like the answers they give but to think they may be driven off the board by the behaviour of the moderators is unbelievable.
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poppy12345 back on the forum and sticking up for her friend @woodbine. When I first started to review this forum, it was a very supportive environment, and the knowledge of Poppy, Woodbine, Mike H, etc was excellent. It has helped me with my own PIP claim & reviews. I’m unsure if it’s due to Covid, and being locked indoors, but the aggression and combativeness has got out of hand.
We are all experiencing a stressful time with Covid situ -shielding, etc and then also having to deal with DWP on top - it’s a lot, but let’s be respectful and treat everyone with the respect, we all deserve.I agree as @Cressida has mentioned, if they all leave, who will replace them?There needs to be more support for those who have voluntarily offered their time, help and advice. Time to step up Scope! -
I know people won't like me saying this but if any of us do anything wrong then we should be treated as everyone else
If some one was abusive to any of us then wouldn't we want something to be done it works both ways
The only thing I can say is that an end date to the moderation should be given
No disrespect to people who have been here along time no one is perfect and it doesn't mean that because someone has been here along time that they should be exempt from moderation
@woodbine this is not aimed at you this is in general what I have learnt in life is that people are replacable other people will come along with the same knowledge or better
There have been lots of polite notices for a few weeks and now action has been taken but if you go back over the threads it's whst prople have asked for that action be taken
@woodbine hasn't been stopped from posting the posts just have to be checked first I don't know how long that takes but it's a lesson to us all -
@woodbine hopefully it will all be sorted out soon for you. Good luck next week at your appointment.
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Whether those that left are replaced or not, that's not the point here. Long standing members are being punished for doing no wrong and it's not just @woodbine. Yet there's other members here who can post what they want, when they want and yet nothing is done.All the contradictions, bullying, mis-information and it's allowed. Comments are hugely edited but that member is allowed to continue to post... makes no sense to me at all.In the past few months this community has gone from a lovely friendly place to a place that members no longer want to be and i can't say i blame them either.I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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How do you know other members that you perceive as doing something wrong have not been dealt with privately by the Scope team? No one would know this as it’s not made public.
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@lisathomas50 I partly agree long standing members should still be subject to moderation like everyone
However when taking action no consideration is being given for the thousands of posts they have made prior helping out hundreds of people all in their own time they make a few reported comments and threatened with being thrown off ?
New members or certain members are allowed to continually make comments that are not factual. Libelous Defermation. Derogatory . Rude. And no action is being taken despite being reported
I think we all need to try and understand some individuals have certain conditions that we need to recognise and support
As for losing knowledge thus us only a part of what happens when people leave these people are also friends and very much appreciated for their support
@poppy123456 @chiarieds @woodbine will be missed not only for knowledge but as a part of the community that now just doesnt feel the same -
@poppy123456 things do get done but people just choose not to say and several people on that thread have probably had the same
Most of the people on that thread haven't had posts on here either
If what woodbine said had been said to woodbine then it would of been a different story
When we say or do something wrong then we should accept what we have done I understand that woodbine is upset but its happend and its a lesson learnt there have been lots of polite warnings over the last couple of weeks and now its changed
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@janer1967 I fully understand where your comring from
We are always being told not to reply to posts if they upset us get on our nerves and for whatever other reason because then we come out with comments that are just as bad
People choose to leave they don't have to leave as I have read on threads these people are welcome to come back at anytime but if your friends it doesn't matter if they are on here or not it doesn't stop a friend ship
I am just haveing a discussion no disrespect to anyone and no malice -
I know it is their choice to leave but who wants to put up with all the put downs and disagreements
Yes you dont have to be on here to be friends but it's still not nice to see your friends leave no matter what
I am getting irritated and angered by some of the comments so will no longer contribute as I may say something I shouldn't taking advice to leave it there -
I’ve read a lot of posts which I have had to ignore for the reasons outlined by @janer1967 and I’ve been hoping and trusting that they would be moderated in some way or other by the scope team. If I had interacted with the poster I would have been moderated myself so I’ve left it to the team.
Secondly, don’t we support the community by staying through thick and thin? Sometimes new posters are bound to appear who annoy or irritate us but the strength of the community is shown through Constance and perseverance is it not.
Incidentally @cressida I became a disability Gamechanger by shear volume of posts and likes etc, not through merit, my input has and probably always will be negligible. I wish I knew more about the benefits system but unfortunately other than common sense suggestions I can’t really help in those matters.“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.”
― Dalai Lama XIV -
janer1967 said:
I am getting irritated and angered by some of the comments so will no longer contribute as I may say something I shouldn't taking advice to leave it there
Well said! i couldn't agree with you more. I didn't make this thread for some people to have a dig at others.
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
@janer1967
Also getting irritated and angry at some of the comments here.
I can think of a couple of other members who should have been put under moderation for the God awful advice trotted out as fact and the permanently angry and rude about seemingly every organisation they have come into contact with.
Would have made more sense to me.
So sorry to read you're having to go through another health scare on top of all this @woodbine
Take care pal..... -
@leeCal I tried to make it clear in my post that no disrespect meant to other game changers. You all do a great job.
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