Woodbine

poppy123456 · February 2021

I have remained in contact with some friends i've made here since i left. One person being @woodbine who i've known for a few years from another forum. This kind hearted gentleman is such a lovely man, whom i have the upmost respect for. Last night he emailed me because he was so distraught and extremely upset by what had happened here on the community yesterday. He wanted me to see something he wanted to post here but didn't know if admin would let it through and he was correct, it hasn't been posted, which is extremely sad. A grown man being treated like a little child! I asked him if he wanted me to post it on his behalf and he said he would be very grateful if i could, so here it is.... just incase anyone is wondering, no i haven't returned, i'm here purely to support my dearest friend... John. Hugs to both you and Julie from me!

I'm not sure the moderators will sanction this as they have already refused to publish some of the help I have given tonight. But I wonder do they realise just how utterly degrading it is to go to the trouble of writing out a reply only to see that it won't be published until "somebody" approves it? It makes me feel like a three year old.

I'm told my moderation will last until they think I am a fit and proper person to partake in the usual way, that makes me feel sick to my stomach, this whole thing is making me feel ill. All at a time when I have the threat of being told I have cancer dangling over my head.

I'm also threatened with being told I am to be chucked off scope, something that for me like many others has been a lifeline to me over the past year, and yet they think its there's to take from me.
You might ask why? Well it's all because I dare from time to time call it as i see it, no mention of the hundreds of my post that have been flagged as "liked" or inspiring, that's all gone in the scope dustbin.

I hope who does hold this power over me has the bottle to "approve" this post and that the real powers that be read it and realise exactly what has been done to me here.

I hope I get the chance to be with you again, but if I don't then at least now you will know the reason, that being very simple some peoples mental welfare is thought to be more important to scope than mine.

good night
John

leeCal · February 2021

I’d just like to say that you have my support @woodbine and that of many others on the forum. It’ll all blow over soon I’ve no doubt.

good luck next week too.

janer1967 · February 2021

@poppy123456 thanks for sharing

@woodbine I truly get how you are feeling and you have my support . I do understand the team have to moderate but I tend to agree there is no consideration for old standing members loyalty and what they have contributed over the years . I ho9e you wont be another one we lose . Take care Jane x

Oxonlady · February 2021

Hi @woodbine, I found it very touching that Poppy1234 came to your defence. True friends do support each other!
I'm sure that your contribution has been valued by many over the years.

I have to be honest and say that I nearly left the forum altogether after being unfairly criticised when in fact I had meant no harm at all. But then I decided simply to ignore unfriendly or unfairly critical posts and not bother to reply to them.
I now just reply to genuinely nice people!!!
Take care, Woodbine. Lovely to hear from you, Poppy, it's very decent of you to speak up for Woodbine.

vikingqueen · February 2021

What a wonderful friend you are @poppy123456, it is such a shame that a few remarks have been taken out of context. @woodbine please don't despair too much you are a much appreciated member with a heart of gold.

chiarieds · February 2021

I've just popped on to show both my support & respect for @woodbine , someone who has helped so many people who have come to the forum, & who has also been kind enough to show me support.

I am just about lost for words that he has been put on moderation; I think I'm even more upset over this, than the upset I've felt recently over the way this forum is going........we certainly seem to be fast losing that sense of community; something which matters to us all, including Poppy.

You know you have my best wishes, John, & always will.

poppy123456 · February 2021

I've just had another email from @woodbine who has asked me again if i would add to this thread for him because his comments are not being posted. He said he wants to thank everyone for all your support, it means alot!

Steph81 · February 2021

poppy12345 back on the forum and sticking up for her friend @woodbine. When I first started to review this forum, it was a very supportive environment, and the knowledge of Poppy, Woodbine, Mike H, etc was excellent. It has helped me with my own PIP claim & reviews. I’m unsure if it’s due to Covid, and being locked indoors, but the aggression and combativeness has got out of hand.
We are all experiencing a stressful time with Covid situ -shielding, etc and then also having to deal with DWP on top - it’s a lot, but let’s be respectful and treat everyone with the respect, we all deserve.

I agree as @Cressida has mentioned, if they all leave, who will replace them?

There needs to be more support for those who have voluntarily offered their time, help and advice. Time to step up Scope!

Lisatho11987777 · February 2021

I know people won't like me saying this but if any of us do anything wrong then we should be treated as everyone else

If some one was abusive to any of us then wouldn't we want something to be done it works both ways

The only thing I can say is that an end date to the moderation should be given

No disrespect to people who have been here along time no one is perfect and it doesn't mean that because someone has been here along time that they should be exempt from moderation

@woodbine this is not aimed at you this is in general what I have learnt in life is that people are replacable other people will come along with the same knowledge or better

There have been lots of polite notices for a few weeks and now action has been taken but if you go back over the threads it's whst prople have asked for that action be taken

@woodbine hasn't been stopped from posting the posts just have to be checked first I don't know how long that takes but it's a lesson to us all

Sandy_123 · February 2021

@woodbine hopefully it will all be sorted out soon for you. Good luck next week at your appointment.

poppy123456 · February 2021

Whether those that left are replaced or not, that's not the point here. Long standing members are being punished for doing no wrong and it's not just @woodbine. Yet there's other members here who can post what they want, when they want and yet nothing is done.

All the contradictions, bullying, mis-information and it's allowed. Comments are hugely edited but that member is allowed to continue to post... makes no sense to me at all.

In the past few months this community has gone from a lovely friendly place to a place that members no longer want to be and i can't say i blame them either.

MarkM88 · February 2021

How do you know other members that you perceive as doing something wrong have not been dealt with privately by the Scope team? No one would know this as it’s not made public.

janer1967 · February 2021

@lisathomas50 I partly agree long standing members should still be subject to moderation like everyone

However when taking action no consideration is being given for the thousands of posts they have made prior helping out hundreds of people all in their own time they make a few reported comments and threatened with being thrown off ?

New members or certain members are allowed to continually make comments that are not factual. Libelous Defermation. Derogatory . Rude. And no action is being taken despite being reported

I think we all need to try and understand some individuals have certain conditions that we need to recognise and support

As for losing knowledge thus us only a part of what happens when people leave these people are also friends and very much appreciated for their support

@poppy123456 @chiarieds @woodbine will be missed not only for knowledge but as a part of the community that now just doesnt feel the same

Lisatho11987777 · February 2021

@poppy123456 things do get done but people just choose not to say and several people on that thread have probably had the same

Most of the people on that thread haven't had posts on here either

If what woodbine said had been said to woodbine then it would of been a different story

When we say or do something wrong then we should accept what we have done I understand that woodbine is upset but its happend and its a lesson learnt there have been lots of polite warnings over the last couple of weeks and now its changed

Lisatho11987777 · February 2021

@janer1967 I fully understand where your comring from

We are always being told not to reply to posts if they upset us get on our nerves and for whatever other reason because then we come out with comments that are just as bad

People choose to leave they don't have to leave as I have read on threads these people are welcome to come back at anytime but if your friends it doesn't matter if they are on here or not it doesn't stop a friend ship

I am just haveing a discussion no disrespect to anyone and no malice

janer1967 · February 2021

I know it is their choice to leave but who wants to put up with all the put downs and disagreements

Yes you dont have to be on here to be friends but it's still not nice to see your friends leave no matter what

I am getting irritated and angered by some of the comments so will no longer contribute as I may say something I shouldn't taking advice to leave it there

leeCal · February 2021

I’ve read a lot of posts which I have had to ignore for the reasons outlined by @janer1967 and I’ve been hoping and trusting that they would be moderated in some way or other by the scope team. If I had interacted with the poster I would have been moderated myself so I’ve left it to the team.

Secondly, don’t we support the community by staying through thick and thin? Sometimes new posters are bound to appear who annoy or irritate us but the strength of the community is shown through Constance and perseverance is it not.

Incidentally @cressida I became a disability Gamechanger by shear volume of posts and likes etc, not through merit, my input has and probably always will be negligible. I wish I knew more about the benefits system but unfortunately other than common sense suggestions I can’t really help in those matters.

poppy123456 · February 2021

janer1967 said:

I am getting irritated and angered by some of the comments so will no longer contribute as I may say something I shouldn't taking advice to leave it there

Well said! i couldn't agree with you more. I didn't make this thread for some people to have a dig at others.

Cress · February 2021

@janer1967
Also getting irritated and angry at some of the comments here.

I can think of a couple of other members who should have been put under moderation for the God awful advice trotted out as fact and the permanently angry and rude about seemingly every organisation they have come into contact with.
Would have made more sense to me.

So sorry to read you're having to go through another health scare on top of all this @woodbine

Take care pal.....

Lisatho11987777 · February 2021

And this is what happens when a perfectly normal discussion turns into people haveing a go for no reason

leeCal · February 2021

@Cressida, I completely understand and please don’t take offence, I meant none whatsoever. I was simply posting one day and suddenly I received the title, in my case it is without any real foundation as I’d be very surprised if I’d actually helped anyone at all as yet. Perhaps tomorrow ?

Woodbine

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