March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 411 Pioneering

    A commentator on Sky press preview was saying about the meeting which was held. Apparently one of Keir Starmer's MP's got at him about PIP and how he has a disabled daughter.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,126 Championing
    edited March 11

    From "The Financial Times" 11th March.

    Talk of means-testing PIP, which would removed claimants earning a good salary and anyone with savings even if they have no income.

    Apparent goal of removing 40% claimants and attack on MH makes me wonder whether they are looking at the points system.

    https://www.ft.com/content/daabf042-b1db-4366-b5ca-17e4e3ef244e

    Edit: Sorry folks, I managed to skim the article but the paywall has gone up.

  • Stuartcarol68
    Stuartcarol68 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    hi, I’m carolann

    I’m a pensioner who receives pip for multiple illnesses.

    I’m worried sick I get my pip support taken away.

    I’ve not heard anything regarding pensioners who receive pip.

    What will happen to us as we can’t go back to the work place.

    Anyone got any thoughts.

    Thanks.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    the link wouldn’t let me read it without subscribing. Could you give a brief summary please ?

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,126 Championing

    I managed to bypass the paywall again and take a few shots.

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    I don't think I've post in the right order. Sorry. But you'll get the idea. Again, PIP is linked to work.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,126 Championing

    Hi @carolann I don't know but people of pension age were left alone when DLA was abolished in favour of PIP. It's people of working age they're targeting.

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 180 Empowering

    If I hear the phrase ‘it’s in the name the party of work’ one more time I’m going to scream. I’m so fed up with them all I had a dream I poured Nando’s hot sauce all over liz Kendall’s head. What a duplicitous lying awful evil man Starmer has turned out to be. Hopefully the labour MPs actually have a backbone and stand up to this as it’s going to make the problem worse and push the cost of pip onto healthcare when people live in poverty.

  • Stuartcarol68
    Stuartcarol68 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    thank you for your reply, hopefully it will be the same.

    It’s caused so much distress, already reeling the amount of tax they are taking 25/26 on just my pension just because I’ve given some of my allowance to my husband, they’ve wiped out his one small private pension.

    My pension is my only income, I’m worried sick they take my lifeline away.

    Will have to wait and see but the stress is causing severe mental health problems.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    thank you , that’s very interesting. If I read correctly it seems according to this it’s for new claimants especially those with MH and possibly restricting to UC LCWRA . Or have I read that wrong ?

  • tomwalker
    tomwalker Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor

    The government have announced huge cuts and the consultation paper is not out yet even..some much for putting disabled people at the heart of the Policy..in my view what this is is a grab of disabled money under cover of helping them into work...they can't get 1.5 million ordinary folk a job so it's a nice idea but we all know there's no social care or medical help and not enough decent jobs...they are looking for a cash grab

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    This is the Joseph Rowntree foundation take on it.. sorry if it’s being posted before I’m a new member. It suggests where they might make cuts if you scroll down article

    https://www.jrf.org.uk/news/factsheet-health-related-benefit-cuts

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 736 Empowering

    You're hilarious.

    What "misinformation" have I "spread" then? Do you even know what you are talking about?

    I said they have frozen benefits in the past.

    And then I said time will tell

    Do tell me what this "misinformation" I have spoke of is?

    Not sure what your problem is pal

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,295 Championing

    Apparently on gmb , the journalist spoke to mps coming out of the meeting with starmer last night about pip, that no one spoke out about their concerns.

    Wonder if he threatened them with their jobs.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,041 Championing

    May's elections are only local government... So won't affect much....

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    first them it’s a choice between losing the whip now and losing their seat next election maybe ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    It still tells Starmer the depth of feelings towards him and Labour . I remember when Labour were canvassing and knocked on my door. I said I couldn’t vote for them as I didn’t trust starmer and he’s against the disabled. One guy said he’s going to help and that his mum is disabled so he wouldn’t work for labour if he thought that they were against us. I wonder what he thinks now ?

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,045 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Good morning,

    We have temporarily paused this discussion so we can catch up and review some of the content being posted and will reopen it as soon as possible.

    Kind regards,

    Community Team

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,045 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi all,

    We understand that tensions are high, as many of us are concerned about the potential changes to the benefit system, particularly for disabled people. We've noticed some comments that contain misinformation or are uncivil, and we will be reaching out to several members today to address this.

    We’ve also observed that there are multiple discussions on this same topic. While it’s an important issue that we want to be discussed openly, it’s equally important that this community remains a safe space for everyone, including those who may want to take a break from the topic.

    With that in mind, we have created one dedicated discussion thread to cover all conversations about the upcoming changes, especially while much of what we know is still speculation. We encourage any new discussions on the same issues to be added to this thread.

    Upcoming changes to benefits.

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