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I wasn’t criticising you. Just pointing out some facts.
people should not be disheartened or scared by what a website says etc.No outside body is going to help with these cuts, if the government backs down or it gets challenged in court, it will be because of the work of disability org that are represented by disabled people with no political interests.
Benefits and work web has its own agenda, they aren’t going to challenge anything.The same with Scope etc etc.
The article on the guardian that was out last week, about PIP and losing majority for some labour MPs in determined constituency’s had come about because of a certain disability org brought this up - PIPs against cuts.
They sent many emails to some mps/constituencies pointing this out a few weeks ago.
Then the press got hold of this story.
ANY CHANGES TO THESE CUTS PROPOSALS WILL DEPEND ON US.
There’s nobody coming to save us.
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Yes, it just initially shocked me, more angry than anything else, like you say don't lose hope, this government loves battering us, it really got to me today. I did google the point rule like you said, this is what I found out.
Yes, the proposed "4 point PIP rule" — part of the UK government's recent consultation on disability benefits reform — can potentially be challenged, but it depends on how the rule is implemented and what legal or advocacy routes are pursued.
What's Being Proposed?
The idea seems to be that people might need to score at least 4 points in a single PIP activity (such as preparing food, managing medication, etc.) to qualify for extra support or a gateway to other benefits. This is different from the current system, where points across multiple activities are added together to determine eligibility.
Can It Be Challenged?
1. Legal Challenge (Judicial Review)
If the rule is implemented and:
- It is found to be discriminatory (e.g., disproportionately impacts people with certain types of disabilities),
- It violates human rights,
- Or it goes against the intention of existing welfare law,
then legal action could be taken via judicial review.
However, judicial reviews can only challenge how a decision was made, not whether the government has the right to change policy — so the argument would have to show the rule is unlawful, irrational, or procedurally unfair.
2. Parliamentary Scrutiny
Before the rule is enacted, MPs and Lords can challenge the regulation through debates, votes, and scrutiny in committees. Campaigners and the public can pressure politicians to oppose it.
3. Advocacy and Public Campaigns
Groups like Disability Rights UK, Z2K, and CPAG often organize campaigns or support legal challenges. If enough people oppose the changes, the government could be pressured into reconsidering or amending the proposal — as has happened with other welfare reforms in the past.
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Thank u for your post. You're absolutely right in what you're saying. The fightback continues on. 👍️
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Hello, good evening.
My summery is the same being posted on benefits and work, Labour's WCA changes and their PIP changes will pass with Tory support but that is not the end, actually it's the continuation of a fightback against the changes, a fightback which we will win but there will be bumps in the road, there always is.
I've seen this and I'll post it, Labour knows that the Green Paper which is has nothing to do with the WCA and the PIP plans will be challenged and so Labour will see halfway that they'll "leave alone" those who will lose PIP and LCWRA but will be on the standard rate of Universal Credit as the fact is if you can't work you can't work.
This must not happen, there must be no halfway house because disabled people will still face destitution regardless. The other possible scenario is another tier of PIP.
There are no jobs, employers would rather hire someone fit and able, there will be more unemployment possibly to record levels by 2029's next election.
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With everything said I am just not seeing any positive directions this is going in. I feel as if it's been decided and one by one we are waiting to see if we lose our benefits. It feels like there no changes that can be made. The government screw us and that's it over.
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I feel the same way.
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That's better than work and benefits I believe it will be watered down I email my mp everyday I've emailed out of my area email there is some Sharpe clued up people they done this every ten years don't sink take day by day some people who review pip could be law students professionals everyone working at different paces but it all makes a different keep emailing your mp flood them with emails
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Unstable systems are good for voters. If the parties are truly independent.😏
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So we should complain to Trump, Xi and Putin. I think they are capable of putting Starmer in his place 😁.
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My MP won't she is a lapdog and loves licking starmers shoes .
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4 quid , big wow. bin asap
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There is more to this letter just Google DPO open letter to minister
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My pip review is underway despite it not expiring until August 2026.
I just spoke to my gp and requested a supporting letter and he said the dwp have given them new guidelines telling them not to issue letters as they will disregard them and they will contact gp's if they require any information.
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I'm trying to find that they can't give letters can't find that's it's changed ? Unless anyone else can find its your right to ask for a letter !! Fill sars form out ask at reception for SARS form it's got diagnosis medication and consultations you have with your GP can go back years I went back couple of years to show had diagnosis for more than a year I
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@luvpink My GP told me the same thing - that they’d been told not to issue supportive letters as they’d be torn up. As we had to pay for such letters the practice have stopped supplying them. She did reassure me that when they contacted her she would be supportive though they never made contact! Fortunately, all went well with my review
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morning everyone,
I just received an email from benefits and work regarding legal advice they’ve taken about the reforms including 4 point rules. They’ve been advised that legally there’s nothing that can be done to prevent it going ahead . Not sure this is so but if anyone can link the post please do
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Wow that's shocking
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When did they do that I got doctors letter June ish 2024
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