Moved from income related ESA to UC but now put now New style ESA

Please read through this thread for an explanation and reassurance:

The old Incapacity Benefit, and ESA (at the beginning) had special Youth Rules that allowed claims even without working, so that's where your entitlement to a CB benefit came from.

The up to date figures are £281.10 a fortnight and £609.05 deducted from UC. ESA is s weekly benefit, UC monthly and there are 4.3 weeks in a month.

my son is in the exact Situation he went on incapacity benefit 22 y ago aged 16 under youth rules. that became ESA. He has never paid any NI. In all the years of ESA it has only ever been called income related / support group with enhanced disability premium. There has been no mention anywhere of contribution based element. He is being migrated. Approves for uc last week. Got a letter today to say he is on new esa - fortnightly payments for the contributory elements and will get UC for income related elements - as yet an unknown amount & Monthly - and they will deduct the new esa from that. The only good point is esa remains fortnightly.
I do wonder if this split places him at any disadvantage - anyone know? Thanks

Thanks to @Kimi87 - Son lives with us (elderly parents) rent free obviously. So no claim for Housing Benefit or Council Tax (as we have 3 other adults here) - not likely to be part of a couple in the near future. He has some savings but nothing that exceeds the IR ESA limit.

I am hoping that the amounts for the combination of NS ESA and UC will equal the amount he is currently getting - made up of Living Expenses + Support Group - Enhanced Disability Premium (DESCRIBED AS Disability Income Guarantee on 25-26 rate increase letter).

A friend's son (exact same needs/award is migrating direct into UC). He is expecting the 400.14 single person over 25 and then disability elements of 423.00 approx. This is more than when he was on old ESA support group.

I am told we must wait until 3 days before UC payment before we can be told what my son's entitlement is. Seems very unfair.

Thanks so much @Kimi87 - He was getting what I was told was enhanced disability premium in old ESA - not sure if that would count - we shall wait and see,

Thanks so much - I was worried he would be worse off. He now has to fund all his support staff expenses when they support him (DP account for hours etc) - so didn't want him to be struggling. I do feel the DWP could advise the rates people should expect - once the migration begins / UC claim activated. I wonder how anyone with a lot of financial commitments must feel at these times.

Hi again @Kimi87 - just had son's statement of UC payment and it is exactly as you explained earlier -

….monthly income will be £609.05 NS ESA, topped up by £214.36 UC.

I just wanted to check somewhere that the previously awarded 'Enhanced Disability Premium' - I know this is not part of the UC nor the New Style ESA (Support Group) - should be considered on his overall claim - as I saw this info on the Gov Website - and now confused

If you get other disability premiums

You can get more money in your transitional protection payment if:

• you get, or are entitled to, the enhanced disability premium or the disability premium within the month immediately before the first day of your Universal Credit claim
• you’re still eligible for the enhanced disability premium or the disability premium at the start of your Universal Credit claim

If you’re single, you’ll get an extra:

• £91.15, if you get, or are entitled to, the enhanced disability premium
• £186.64, if you get, or are entitled to, the disability premium

If you’re in a couple you’ll get an extra:

• £130.22, if you get, or are entitled to, the enhanced disability premium
• £266.94, if you get, or are entitled to, the disability premium

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So that's the info I am confused about - he was getting it before this 'migration' be it split to NS ESA and UC.

I range the UC Migration helpline - they couldn't help me and suggested I do a Journal Note - so that someone in the 'system' would reply. I know if entitled to either of these premiums that it would be transitional protection and would erode over time.

I wondered if, as he will get more in total in the new system than the old - that the premiums are not paid at all.

Before I make the journal message - I thought I would check on this wonderful forum.

Hope you don;t mind and thanks to Kimi87 for all the help so far - I do not like to take DWP info as gospel - preferring to discover rights and entitlements beforehand.

Many thanks all.

Thank you so much for the reply @Kimi87 - I just thought it best to check