Hi, my name is donian! Is the transfer from contribution based ESA to New Style ESA automatic?

donian
donian Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

HHi Have read a few comments about transitioning to universal Credit and feel my wife and myself are in the same boat

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  • donian
    donian Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Hi my wife is the main claimant was in the support group of what we believed was only income related esa. However after migrating to universal credit from esa we have been informed that my wife still gets contribution style esa. And this will be deducted from universal credit. However the contribution esa is supposed to automatically transfer to new style esa without my wife having to do anything. Yet she has had a phone call and now a letter saying she has to come in to the job centre to make a new claim for new style esa. In view i have tried to contact esa to find out what's going on but after so many phone calls holding for up to 1 and a half hours and not being able to speak to anyone. And any advise from Universal credit or citizens advise is to contact esa. If the transfer from contribution esa to new style esa is automatic then why is my wife having to be assigned a work coach when in the support group and asked that she will need to state why she cant work when she has already had a work capability assessment that put her in the support group.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,910 Championing
    edited May 29

    @Mary_Scope

    That's incorrect, the transfer to New Style ESA is automatic when migrating from IR & CB ESA to UC.

    What should happen is everything is sorted behind the scenes, then the claimant has a commitments appointment.

    Most of the language about this appointment is standardised and only applies to new claims not transfers. Anyone migrating counts as a transfer.

    The appointment is usually done by phone and is a brief call. All she will need to do is agree to her commitments. Her only commitment will be to keep them informed of any changes, same as with UC.

    If a phone appointment isn't offered she can ask for one as a reasonable adjustment.

    Read through this thread for guidance:

  • donian
    donian Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Thank you kimo87. Yes I agree on the government official site it does state that transfering from esa contribution would be automatic. We did not know as with lots of other people that we received income related esa as a top up to contribution esa. My wife and I have already signed our claiment commitment on universal credit so why would she being in a support group already need to sign another commitment. Although the earlier person stated incorrectly that she did need to go into the job centre information however well intended when wrong can cause distress. It lucky that soneone who does know can give the correct information. My wife love her to bits has had 4 back operations alone with failed back surgery resulting in a horrible condition called adhesive arachnoiditis. And corda quina. She also suffers with so many other issues to many to mention but still thinks about putting everyone else other than herself first. My wife said in the state she's in she would still go in to show them what she's like. But the last time when she went to the work capability assessment the assessor said he had no idea why my wife was ever sent for the assessment and said for my daughter to take her home. Thank God for caring people.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,910 Championing

    UC and New Style ESA are separate benefits administered separately, hence needing two commitments appointments.

    It's a quick legal formality, a box ticking exercise to agree the commitments with New Style ESA.

  • donian
    donian Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Thank you kimi87, what i dont understand is that universal credit has sorted out our payment which includes the transitional protection and is now correct, why would it be necessary to have new style esa as a seperate payment anyway. I have read that you dont have to agree to claim new style esa as it is only taken off your universal credit payment anyway. If this is the case and my wife does not want to make a new claim or let it be stopped does that affect her universal claim. Thank you for all your help got more from yourself today than with anyone else from uc of citizens advice who try to help but have no idea when it comes to esa and transfering to universal credit. Lastly why dont the departments let people know about that claiments are on some firm of contribution esa and topped up by income related esa and that there is a further step needed to be taken to complete the transfer. But if my wife does receive a face to face appointment by letter and wants to receive a phone call how does she get in touch with esa if they dont answer the phone. I myself have phoned over 10 times last time waited 1hour 35 minutes with no answer. Sorry for all the questions but thank you for your help it is appreciated.

  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 1,787 Scope Online Community Children and Family Specialists
    edited May 29

    Ah so sorry all, will delete my reply to stop any misinformation!☺️ @Kimi87 thank you for clearing it up!

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,910 Championing
    edited May 29

    Universal credit is replacing 6 income related legacy benefits.

    Contributions based ESA isn't one of those.

    I don't make the rules or have any say in how DWP communicate with us. I just give advice as an amateur.

    Unfortunately phoning is the only way to get in touch with ESA. These appointments are usually done by phone.

    If your wife gave up the claim then you'd receive UC without a deduction being made for ESA. So instead of £609.05 being paid via ESA, that £609.05 would be paid via UC.

  • donian
    donian Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Kimi87 your not just an mature everything you have put down has been clear and concise. You have been very helpful. All I have ever asked when chatting to UC or when esa phoned me is to know what needs to be done. I am always polite calm as I know people are only trying to help and even if things can't be resolved arguing or being rude doesn't get anyone anywhere. Just been so stressful so confusing instead of straight forward. But you have been a great help. And as for the other person trying to help even if its the incorrect information I am grateful for any reply as its meant with the best of intentions thank you.