Cash withdrawals

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  • kingston
    kingston Online Community Member Posts: 57 Contributor

    I draw about £100 a week plus use my card, I have seen a lot of people draw cash on a regular basis so I should be okay during a review?

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,226 Championing

    You're looking for reassurance that no-one can give you.

    Some people will be asked to justify cash withdrawals at a review. Others won't. There is no way of knowing whether you will be or not.

  • kingston
    kingston Online Community Member Posts: 57 Contributor

    just here to see other people’s experiences as to whether they’ve been asked about it or not, guess I just have to wait and see if I get another review

  • kingston
    kingston Online Community Member Posts: 57 Contributor
  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering

    So if I draw my ESA out every two weeks ( 281 every two weeks ) and my lcwra at the end of the month ( 210 ) what I'm not allowed to do that ?

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,483 Championing

    You are allowed to take out your money however you wish.

    You just might be asked questions during a financial review.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering

    Such as what are your monthly outgoings ? I thought loads of people took out Thier benefits and done everything on cash .... More like North Korea every day 😩

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,483 Championing

    They may ask what a cash withdrawal was for etc.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,696 Championing

    Apart from the Labour camps, secret police and semi starvation, you're dead right.

  • aliam23
    aliam23 Online Community Member Posts: 7 Connected

    Is it not worth reminding?-About credit cards and withdrawing from those specifically that it is then charged with an applied percentage fortune basically. I have experienced this yet but will find out soon been reading plenty of warnings online

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,696 Championing

    I have almost never taken money from an ATM with a credit card. Only in extremis.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,226 Championing

    The reviews are partly looking for hidden savings. That could be cash under your mattress or given away to relatives, for example.

    It is fraudulent to hide savings, particularly above £6k total, because then you would get paid more UC than you are entitled to. We all agree to inform UC of changes in savings when we sign up to it. It's just part of the basic contract for being paid money to live on.

    While it is intrusive to be asked about individual payments, it is reasonable for the DWP to understand where their money is going, in the same way as any boss would review their outgoings periodically.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering

    I agree but if you tell them what you spend it on , my outgoings for instance.....

    I get 775 a month all together....

    200 food

    20 phone

    25 lottery

    15 streaming sites

    20 medication

    40 supplements

    80 ingredients for smoothies

    35 toiletries

    Ashamed to admit I have 3 take away a week ( so 300 a month )

    And then pay back my mum any money I owe

    If I have anything left over it just goes on little things ....

    Other than phone and streaming sites everything is cash .... So do you then have to live in fear that they don't believe you or are watching you , it's getting ridiculous , the DWP have made my condition worse with everything that they have been doing , I get served intrusive thoughts and they are made unbearable with everything the DWP is doing , asking you everything you spend your money on , monitoring people's bank accounts , trying to cut people benefits anyway they can , it's Orwellian

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,226 Championing

    Why should the DWP believe your word? Or mine? Or anyone else's?

    That is why I use my card or bank transfer as much as possible. There's nothing for them to question where the evidence is clear to see on bank statements. Obviously that's not possible for everything, but does cut down the number of transactions they could ask about.

    My health has been considerably worsened by the benefits services, health services, housing services, lettings agents, tradespeople, delivery companies etc. That is the world we live in unfortunately. If everyone was fair and honest and trustworthy they wouldn't need to put all this security in place. But they aren't and that isn't going to change so we just have to try and muddle through the best we can.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 206 Empowering

    Complete agree , but if they ask me and I tell them what my money goes on , what's saying that's good enough ? There's no receipts , there's no way they could know anyway , that's my point , I use cash and people that want to shouldn't be made to feel like criminals for that

  • SM9346
    SM9346 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    The way I see it. If you have a lifelong disability or health condition to stops you from working. You should be left alone on it. No reveiws, nothing until another reassessment.

    My disability is in the most severe category DWP class and it says on there those with the severe category get left alone.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,483 Championing

    Unfortunately the financial reviews apply to all UC claimants, carers, those working, those unable to work.

    Which makes sense as UC is a means tested benefit first and foremost.

    I still don't agree with the level of intrusion on these checks and have made my feelings clear on other threads.

  • SM9346
    SM9346 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    I was on ESA IR for a very long time and never had a bank/financial review. It’s actually only this year I found out these happen. I done a bit research into why I never got a review before and it made sense.

  • kingston
    kingston Online Community Member Posts: 57 Contributor

    I am still worried about this, is it worth sending a journal message asking what the monthly limit is for cash withdrawals or just wait to as and when I get another review?

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 2,892 Championing

    Hi @kingston, I wouldn't personally (there won't be a cash limit as such, the only caveat I'd say is if there were consistently large withdrawals/purposely keeping just under the maximum savings allowed, for instance). the most sensible advice i could say is to keep a record of what you spend, including of cash transactions.

    I was asked nonsense about a 30.00 cash withdrawal from March/couldn't remember what it was for but I don't suffer fools gladly so my response of various retorts including once it is paid to me it is my money, and do not ask me again (the latter about bank statements requested 6 times and sent/acknowledged 6 times.

    They gave up with me, quite possibly lost the will to live before I did, including accepting an out of date passport 🙄. I've got neither the time nor the patience for such nonsense. To reduce your worrying just keep good records, I do ordinarily! In future I shan't be spending a moment further worrying!