Being on benefits, should that prevent you going on holiday abroad?

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  • SM9346
    SM9346 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    For some reason it’s not letting me edit the post.

    But if I go abroad each time I have a family member with me at all times otherwise I can’t go as I need someone with me at all times. Reading one or two replies to this thread I feel I can’t go abroad anymore due to being disabled.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 862 Championing

    Hi.

    Please do not deprive yourself of your travels. Carry on if you can, as they're very beneficial mentally. There's absolutely nothing wrong in your case and is understandable, as you're not bragging about going abroad on holiday 4 times a year.

    You can only edit your post I think within 12 or 24hrs from posting it, I'm not sure. Anyway, as long as you're seeing an icon that looks like a circle above your post.

  • Schildpad
    Schildpad Online Community Member Posts: 586 Empowering

    I am not nor a really try as it seems to much hassle. Apparently I heard you have to let them know you are going to be away. . I find being in benefits a curse more than a blessing. ...so no. I probably won't but not because of what people will say but more because I have to report I am travelling.. why?…

  • SM9346
    SM9346 Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Last year I went away 3 times abroad under 14 days combined all together with family each time. I don’t have 2 week holidays 3-4 times a year. Couldn’t afford to anyway. I was away a few weeks back for a few days abroad with family and it was great. Might be going away on 2/3 weeks time again but waiting to see on a few things first.

    I had to report to UC I was going abroad a month ago. Very easily to do online but they ask for the reason why.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,051 Championing

    For pip ,if you go abroad for a month ,you have to let them know. Not for myself, haven't got a passport. But for my daughter., who works her boyfriend paid for her ticket.

  • Zeuss
    Zeuss Online Community Member Posts: 37 Connected

    No you don't ,you only have to let them know if you are going for longer than 28 days.

  • pereto
    pereto Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Thankyou though some people on here think otherwise but I just ignore them. These really help with my mental health conditions and I travel with either a friend of family member who help.

  • pereto
    pereto Online Community Member Posts: 31 Connected

    Its very funny how you assume and judge about people you know nothing about.

    I go abroad as Ive always enjoyed traveling and just because I have a disabiltity now does not mean I should not still enjoy travel. But according to you who knows nothing about my condtion says it should prevent me.

    These holidays really help with my mental health conditions including ptsd from having served for 10 years, and I travel with either a friend of family member who help. and British Airways and heathrow staff are great at heathrow with knowing the sunflower lanyard scheme. They help me through the airport avoiding as best as possible most of the crowd with their buggy and British Airways always find s me a quiet secluded part of the lounge i can use. And abroad my family or friend is there to help me deal with all the stressors that could come up and im fine with new routines and envioroments.

    Secondly you say

    "Needless to add that there's a large number of people who are working full time and are still struggling to pay their utility bills and can only afford to travel abroad on YouTube."

    So what there as also a large number of people who can as well. If I can afford it why should I not travel. Should I stay home instead and think I shouldnt go abroad because others cant lol.

    And I love how you tell me one thing I shouldnt go abroad that no people in their right minds would agree that someone who claims that they're unable to work could still have the physical and mental readiness to travel abroad

    but you tell another person

    "Please do not deprive yourself of your travels. Carry on if you can, as they're very beneficial mentally"

    Surely what you said

    "Not many people in their right minds would agree that someone who claims that they're unable to work could still have the physical and mental readiness to travel abroad on holidays 4 times a year. A trip abroad necessitates a degree of fitness, both physically and mentally, not only embarking on the trip, but also, taking steps to mana ge these during travels and adapting to new environments, routines, and potential stressors."

    Applys to everyone then or is it just me lol

    Maybe its becasue i liked gb news or maybe you wish you could go too I dont know, But this is meant to be the scope online coummunity forum where people come to find help and and advice and where people help and support each other or are supposed to.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,136 Championing
    edited August 18

    Why bring being in the military into the equation? Does that mean you are a higher grade of disabled person?

    I always thought we didn't bang on about it, like they do in the US.

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 926 Championing

    @pereto enjoy every minute mate.

    I can only imagine the horrors you saw/ experienced that brought on your PTSD, but i do know how debilitating it is. How traumatic it is.

    I can safely say without undergoing EMDR I wouldn't be here now

    I leave the judging to doddery old men in wigs, your money, your choice

    Happy healing

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 862 Championing
    edited August 18

    I wasn't judging anyone but saying what I believed.

    No matter how much you try to justify your position, I don't think many people would buy the idea that someone on benefits could go on holiday abroad 4 times a year.

    There's a difference between someone who says they went on holiday once 3 times a year accompanied by their family and another one who brags about going abroad on holiday 4 times a year.

    Saying that you go abroad on holiday 4 times a year does not help the already demonised image of the sick and disabled people who are being called all sorts of derogatives names.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,472 Championing

    Pereto, it’s good to hear you’ve got someone to travel with who supports you. You’ve served for ten years, you’re managing PTSD, and you’ve taken holidays that are fully allowed under the benefits system. That’s not spoiling yourself, it’s looking after your health.

    Ten years of service deserves recognition. Not because it makes you “higher grade” disabled, but because it explains the reality you’re managing, and relevance matters.

    You’ve followed the rules. If that unsettles a few people, maybe they should ask why a disabled forum is more comfortable judging its own than supporting lawful wellbeing. Nobody should be made to feel guilty about how they spend their support.

    Ten years of service doesn’t demand pity. It demands respect and structural support. If that unsettles people, it’s not the system punishing wellbeing. It’s the discomfort some carry when wellbeing doesn’t look like struggle.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 862 Championing
    edited August 19

    Although in his initial comment he didn't mention that he was in service for ten years and was managing PTSD, as if managing PTSD were an exclusive disorder with people who were in service, to me, he has no exclusive privilege over anyone else, as people do not go in the army purely to defend their country free of charge but for their own personal reasons. When it comes to respect, no human being should have more respect than others. Why should someone who was in service for 10 years have more respect than a nurse, bus driver, teacher, builder, civil servant, social worker, fire fighter, etc.?

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 926 Championing
    edited August 19

    Opinions. Like a certain part of the anatomy we've all got them. And are entitled to them.

    There are those I respect more than others. Those who have seen active duty certainly get mine more than I do other occupations. [removed by moderator - sensitive content]

    Is Pereto's PTSD more important than say mine which stems from not being in a war zone ?

    Nope, but when there's a relapse … I don't subscribe to the adage, there's always someone worse off; because when a person is going through whatever they are, it's all consuming to them at that time. At least that's how I see it

    I've not seen any words where they claim exclusive rights/ privilege to anything … but they've got the right to go on holiday whenever finances allow ?

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,472 Championing

    Members are not obliged to present a full personal history upfront on this forum. Pereto shared his diagnosis precisely when it became relevant, to provide context for a judgement already made against him. That’s not secrecy, it’s a standard boundary. To criticise the timing is to punish someone for not pre-emptively defending themselves against an attack they couldn’t possibly have anticipated.

    On the Nature of Trauma. You are correct that PTSD isn’t an exclusive condition. But Pereto never claimed it was. He spoke about his experience, not the collective experience of everyone living with the condition. Furthermore, your diversion into a person’s motivations for joining the military is both cynical and irrelevant, an ad hominem disguised as analysis. The validity of trauma does not depend on the nobility of one’s backstory.

    You are correct that respect should not be ranked. However, you fail to acknowledge that no one was ranking it, until another member posed the question: “Does that mean you are a higher grade of disabled person?” That wasn't a genuine inquiry, it was a moral audit, which you then chose to co-sign. You didn’t simply challenge Pereto’s wording, you endorsed an attack on his motives, his timing, and his right to speak from his own experience.

    Your list of respectable professions, nurse, bus driver, teacher, is valid, but irrelevant. You are arguing against a hierarchy Pereto never proposed. He mentioned military service once, in a medical context, not as a claim to superior status.

    Let’s also be clear on the matter of holidays. The benefits system allows for them not by oversight, but by codified policy. And that policy is rooted in a fact you appear to overlook, rest is a vital component of health, not a luxury reserved for the able-bodied.