Refusal of PIP Mobility

FredFlintstone · September 4

if you feel the need for justifying why you initially said you could walk 200metres, it is pretty obvious you didn’t at the time fully understand the question. Its not just a case of how far you can walk, but also can it be done safely, and timely.

tommy2k17 · September 4

Would you send the extra letters (they already have the osteopath one)?

FredFlintstone · September 5

that decision is yours

tommy2k17 · September 9

If this was your case, would you?

FredFlintstone · September 9

I currently have a Change of Circumstances in for mobility, so, yes, I would.

Zipz · September 9

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1064732#Comment_1064732

Hi @tommy2k17

Reading your initial post and input from your friend and osteopath, it strikes me that you warrant higher rate mobility. You might be able to cover 200 metres but you don't seem to be able to stand and mobilise at all safely, reliably, and in a timely fashion.

Consider also the fact that you cannot hold your phone well enough to see maps and therefore navigate journeys without help. You ought to score points under the second mobility question as well as walking.

tommy2k17 · September 10

Thankyou @Zipz . Of all the evidence above, which do you think I should send to them?

Zipz · September 10

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1066608#Comment_1066608

Send the osteopath's letter and coax you friend into giving a better impression of:

Your capacity to navigate a journey to familiar and/or unfamiliar places without help (safely and reliably) due to a multiple disability that affects your capacity to see;
Your ability to stand and walk any distance safely, in a timely fashion, etc. State whether you need support from another person. The weather is irrelevant.

tommy2k17 · September 10

@Zipz They've already got the osteopath's letter. Are you talking about the last letter?

Zipz · September 10

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1066690#Comment_1066690

I'm talking about all your friend's attemps to support you in writing.

None of his texts provide a clear picture of the distance you can walk (safely, etc) or your problems navigating journeys independently because of manual and visual issues. He needs to start again and go into clear detail about your capacity on the majority of days. Rabbiting on about the weather or other peripheral issues will not help.

In addition, you have been disabled all your life. Does your GP or hospitals hold clinical records to do with your capacity?

tommy2k17 · September 10

I will call them tomorrow

durhamjaide2001 · September 13

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1066726#Comment_1066726

hi I'm just checking to see if you managed to make the phone call on Thursday and if so how did it go?

tommy2k17 · September 15

I made a telephone appointment (I couldn't see a doctor!) and explained it to them. They just said when I appeal, the DWP needs to contact them, and the doctor will tell them what I told her (which is what I said earlier in the forum posts)!

tommy2k17 · September 15

And my local citizens advice bureau doesn't have a drop-in service. I'm wondering at this stage if it's worth appealing, considering I am getting daily care, as it is causing me so much stress and anxiety.

Wibbles · September 15

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1064541#Comment_1064541

Don't forget the word "Repeatedly" !

Also - best not to mention any aids (walking sticks etc) that you may use - because, rather unfairly - DWP tend to believe that any assistance cancels out any detrimental affects of poor mobility !

Concentrate on Pain, Discomfort and Tiredness and your inability to repeat the distance without a considerable delay for resting.

tommy2k17 · September 15

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1067807#Comment_1067807

Mention the word 'repeatedly' where? And shall I just leave the other witness statements out, as they don't really mention distance

Wibbles · September 15

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1067853#Comment_1067853

Your PIP distance is what you can do safely, timely,repeatedly and acceptably for the majority of days

tommy2k17 · September 15

Thankyou

WhatThe · September 15

"Also - best not to mention any aids (walking sticks etc) that you may use - because, rather unfairly - DWP tend to believe that any assistance cancels out any detrimental affects of poor mobility !"

I'm sorry but this is poor advice!

DWP presumes that a claimant uses appropriate mobility aids and/or medication for certain conditions whether or not s/he does so in practice. That is factored into the health assessment so there's every reason to mention them.

(they do believe that - that's why it's hard to qualify for an award!)

Zipz · September 15

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1067967#Comment_1067967

It certainly worth a claimant mentioning aids that that are used but still leave significant limitations and aids that have been tried but have proved ineffective or even dangerous.

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