My Mistake Claiming Universal Credit.

brian1971
brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

As an appointee for my son’s affairs with the DWP this is my position with his claim for Universal Credit.

I have until the 27th November to finalise the claim, which gives me five weeks and a few days to do so, failing which the transitional protection will be lost at quite a sum of money.

During a phone call I made yesterday an adviser from the Universal Credit department told me I would have a home visit as I was unable to provide the online identification required. An hour or so later I checked the messages on the online account I created at the Universal Credit Journal and saw the following:

“We need to call you.”

“If we do need to call you, it will be in the first few weeks.”

The quoted sentences are contradictory, with one saying they “need” to contact me and the second saying “if” we need to contact you. The first sentence is definite and the second vague.

I have read numerous examples of this problem on Facebook, which should never arise, by claimants of Universal Credit.

It appears I will have to wait perhaps a “few weeks” for a message in the journal and then their call on my mobile phone, probably days after their message, so UC can verify the required details.

As the claim must be made by the 27th of November this does not give me much time, particularly if their message and phone call comes “weeks” later! My concern is, as stated above, that if the claim is not finalised by this date the transitional protection will be lost and consequently less money will be received when an award is finally made.

No mention of a home visit was made when I checked the messages on the online account, which contradicts the information given to me by the said adviser. It is hoped that another message will be forthcoming to inform me of the date and time of the phone call as it is not an easy task to sit in my wheelchair with my mobile phone on my lap, anxiously waiting for the call which might come within the next “few weeks.”

When I received the migration notice letter about seven weeks ago I had no idea the above would happen and wrongly assumed the claim process would be easier and faster.

I intend calling the UC helpline Monday morning and try to clarify matters with, hopefully, information about the home visit or phone call. I will request an extension to the deadline date of the 27th November which, if granted, will give me some peace of mind. Presently I am a nervous wreck. As a man of nearly seventy years of age with several serious health conditions and a wheelchair user I am finding the stress of all this is exacerbating my mental health. I also feel I am a failure as my son’s appointee. With hindsight I should have initiated the claim immediately I received the migration notice letter. I admit to making a terribly big mistake.

I suggest that UC claimants who receive a migration notice letter set in motion the wheels of the application as soon as they can, rather than the way in which I have done.

It is hoped that these few words will be of help in some way to claimants of Universal Credit as I do wish to see them in the same boat as myself.

I will post again as I make progress - if any, which I have doubts about.

The best of luck to all claimants.

Comments

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 6,956 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @brian1971, Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I'm really sorry the transition has been so stressful for you, but I hope they can answer some of your questions on Monday and things start falling into place.

    Please don't feel you are a failure for your son. It sounds like you're doing your best in some challenging circumstances with all that you're dealing with yourself. It's so hard supporting someone through this kind of thing and the system can be really confusing.

    Fingers crossed you get some clarity soon and the rest of the claim goes by without too much more stress. We've got some lovely members about and I'm sure they'll have some helpful advice if you need it.

  • brian1971
    brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

    Many thanks for your prompt reply Rosie. I really appreciate it. I will let you know how things progress. I have yet to do a claim for my wife and I as a mixed age couple. So one step at a time. Best wishes always.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,444 Championing

    You've made the claim before his deadline, the Transitional Protection is not at risk, the application date is treated as the claim start date.

    You are now waiting for ID verification to allow the claim to progress.

    I applied for UC over three years ago and still have a message on my To Do list saying they will call me within a few days... Never had any calls from them.

    Generally an appointment will always be made in advance with details added onto the Journal.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,062 Championing

    Phone CAB he was amazing he went through the form with me ie rent what benefits your on say support group address ect he double checked everything for me i then went onto doing a phone claim but you can still call them for help honestly he made it so easy and the guy on universal credit phone line was really kind so pls on monday Google universal credit CAB and say all your worries I was so relieved because I was so scared of form im still waiting till 30th Oct to see if all ok CAB have done millions of these so they are experts dont worry that part wasnt as bad as I thought

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,444 Championing

    Great suggestion Catherine, https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/claiming/contact-us-about-universal-credit/

    This is a national service run by phone and webchat not linked to your local branch.

  • brian1971
    brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

    Many thanks to Kimi87, Rosie and Catherine21 for your most helpful posts. I will follow the advice by you all. Just love this Forum as I never feel alone when I am here. Bless you all.

  • brian1971
    brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

    Hi Kimi87,

    Having checked the requirement for the claim for UC to be officially completed they require the ID check. Hopefully, when I ring them tomorrow I will get more information on whether they intend calling at my house or ringing me.

  • brian1971
    brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

    If you initiated a Universal Credit (UC) claim but failed the identity verification requirement, the claim is not considered completed.

    Above information taken from Google AI which, I think, is correct unfortunately.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,444 Championing
    edited October 19

    I think you misunderstood my advice and how Universal Credit actually works.

    the application date is treated as the claim start date.

    You are now waiting for ID verification to allow the claim to progress.

    Once your ID is confirmed and the claim progresses, the start date of the claim for calculating payment is counted as the date you submitted the claim.

    Not the day you pass the ID check.

    I never said anything about the claim being completed without an ID check.

    I was trying to allay your fears about losing Transitional Protection. Fears which are unfounded, because you have applied before the deadline.

  • brian1971
    brian1971 Online Community Member Posts: 36 Connected

    That is great to know Kimi. Many thanks for your post which is most appreciated. Good to know the transitional protection is not at risk. Thank goodness for people like you. I am just an old man, wheelchair-bound, who finds this application an enormous strain.