Trump - again

Wibbles
Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,182 Championing

Who thinks that Trump deserves the (up to £5 billion) that he is trying to get paid by the BBC for “fake news” ?

Considering the total income through licence fees is just £3.8 billion

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  • kreacher
    kreacher Online Community Member Posts: 337 Empowering

    trump deserves nothing

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,182 Championing

    Should the PM get involved and give Trump a phone call ?

    Otherwise it could affect the trade between UK and US

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,894 Championing
    edited November 2025

    The BBC can no longer be regarded as the gold standard of broadcasting, either at home or abroad. Its latest shambles is nothing short of humiliating, and I, for one, no longer wish to fund it.

    Consider the record. Even after Huw Edwards was arrested for making Category A child abuse images, the BBC kept him on at £479,999 a year and handed him a £40,000 pay rise during that time. Only after his resignation did they timidly request £200,000 back,  money to this day Edwards  has never repaid. No serious effort has been made to recover licence payer’s funds.

    Then came the Glastonbury fiasco, where the BBC broadcast a set so drenched in political messaging that it forced the resignation of its head of music and left the Director General fighting for his job. A publicly funded broadcaster should never have distributed such partisan material on iPlayer.

    Most damning of all, the BBC aired a Gaza documentary narrated by the son of a Hamas official, a fact hidden from viewers that struck at the very heart of impartiality. The corporation broadcast it knowing it could never meet its own standards. Only when outsiders exposed the truth did they admit “serious failings” and pull the programme. Its own chairman called the scandal “a dagger to the heart” of impartiality, while the Director General conceded it was “a really, really bad moment” for the BBC.

    Trump’s demands may grab headlines, but the deeper scandal is the BBC’s handling of his speech. When the doctored edit first came to light in May, senior staff urged an immediate apology. That advice was overruled by Director General Tim Davie and Deborah Turness, the Chief Executive of BBC News. Instead, the corporation concealed the evidence for five months, hoping the storm would pass. The matter could have been resolved professionally, perhaps even at Trump’s state banquet in September,  but our publicly funded broadcaster defaulted to concealment, not candour.

    In my own personal opinion, the solution is clear, end the compulsory funding model. If the BBC truly delivers value, it should thrive in the marketplace like any other media organisation, through voluntary subscriptions or advertising revenue.

    No other broadcaster enjoys the privilege of guaranteed funding regardless of performance or cost to the licence payer. The time has come to abolish this anachronistic levy,  and if the BBC is as confident in its worth as it claims, that should not be a problem.

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  • Zippy1983
    Zippy1983 Online Community Member Posts: 282 Empowering

    Trump and Andrew Windsor need to be locked up in a Supermax Prison in America, both have been on that island and are in the same boat as certain to presenters and singers that have been outed over the last 20 years.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 415 Championing

    The attack on the BBC is not so much about the documentary but about trying to control media in the UK. The fact one of America's governmental aides said everyone in the UK should watch GB news instead is a really key factor here.

    I'm not defending the editing of the video, but at the same time, American news channels regularly misrepresent the UK and its regions, especially London under Khan, without consequence. And I haven't forgotten comments made by GB news about benefits claimants which went without challenge or reprisal. In the case of the Trump documentary, he did say those things. Just not in the order they were presented.

    I have no doubt there are things that need fixing at the BBC, but allowing a foreign president to come in against our media outlets is not the same as reforming the BBC for the people paying the licence fee.

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  • MW123
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    I may be missing the connection in your argument. You’ve suggested that America is attempting to control the UK media, yet in this instance it appears the BBC itself chose to rearrange the order of Trump’s remarks.

    Could you clarify how you see that as American influence rather than a matter of the BBC’s editorial judgment? I’d like to understand the reasoning behind your view.

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  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,225 Championing
    edited November 2025

    Perfect!!!! Agree! The BBC are biased too, not to be trusted with their news. There are thousands of people that do not pay for the TV licence because of it. I do not have a TV licence, but I don't watch TV now anyway.... I am led to believe the Director General has been removed!

    Trump has already won cases in America over his speeches being altered. CBS I am led to believe paid out millions in an out of court settlement according to an ex American Police Officer who is a British man that moved over to America years ago and on another forum I frequent.

    A member mentioned Starmer? He's another one that should be removed!

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  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,225 Championing

    You have made an incorrect assumption, I don't watch that news channel either.

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  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,225 Championing

    I said I don't watch TV and I don't. That is not the case with me. Please leave it now.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    BBC = British Brainwashing Corporation. I couldn't stand to watch normal TV these days, I haven't watched normal TV in years and refuse to fund the BBC with a TV license. I prefer to get actual real news from real people, using their own voice.

    Personally I find all TV fake and literal brain rot.

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,894 Championing
    edited November 2025

    Trevor, you were right to push back, people are conflating the issue and dragging it into viewing habits. The core problem is not who watches what, but the BBC’s breach of its own editorial standards.

    The BBC's decision to rearrange Trump’s words is what caused the grievance. For a publicly funded broadcaster, these failings are unforgivable, when they occur, they disgrace the nation and, in this case, have triggered a diplomatic situation.

    The BBC have a long record of scandals and a culture of presenting contrived narratives as fact, this is not an isolated lapse but a systemic problem.  Allegations of bias have been raised for decades, and the erosion of trust is undeniable.

    The BBC are the authors of their own downfall, driving viewers towards alternative channels.