They think they are being helpful!

orangeapple57
orangeapple57 Scope Member Posts: 49 Contributor
edited November 30 in Everyday life

I have a powered wheelchair from the NHS and I normally send my son to get fish and chips every four months or so he finds it really difficult because some of the neighbours are very nosy and rude and he often finds that he can't get in line because he's avoiding them. The fish barn have been great and have noticed that he is holding back waiting to the side and generally finding it difficult and always orders the same thing. This month he was really sick and I've just had breast cancer operation so I was reducing the amount that I drive because I'm getting very sore from using my arm and decided to on a very very rare occasion actually go down to the fish band myself. The dinner lady comes up behind me and says she doesn't want to have a go at me but I should really go and get some lights fitted to my powered wheelchair. I was so thrown a back because I didn't realize she was there as a cyclist she had no lights on that I could see from behind and she was making no noise. The parts of got a nasty slope on them due to they're being many driveways on the road so I decided to go down the road as nobody else was using it.

The only thing I could think of at the time to explain why I didn't have any lights is that it's an NHS wheelchair and the I would let them know. Obviously those of us with wheelchairs no that you can't really adapt or change your NHS wheelchair especially when you've only just got it and you're just getting used to it the fact that the lady who made this comment has a down syndrome brother I would have expected with her a better empathy and understanding however a lot of the nasty comments have come from her including being told that I should just get out of my wheelchair and push it over a step at the bottom of the village ramp and told that because I'm not reliant on my wheelchair that obviously I'm not disabled and I'm just faking it. So there's a lot of history with this woman and we normally don't say anything to each other wave to each other or have any pleasantries because of the fact that she has been extremely rude and physically verbally attacking us in the past. As a result the area in which I live in has become toxic.

I was quite upset by what she said but I chose to laugh it off when I saw a post about the bingo she was talking about to the chip fan being advertised on the local group.

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I thought by throwing a little bit of humor at it we might be able to laugh off the situation and come to an understanding where they know that he is not acceptable to be telling somebody that they need to wear lights for visibility is totally unacceptable when they don't tell people that are walking up from the train station wearing all black the same thing. That's kind of a double standards thing going on and it really bugged me secretly but I was willing to laugh it off that is until I got this response!

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None of my community has helped in the situation and I had to have somebody that I volunteer with for a charity come down from Lancashire to cover the few days that I was going in for surgery because there are no local charities here and no local support not even somebody that could go and get the shopping for me so I was already frustrated and just literally wanted to get to the end of the road and get myself some food that night because my son was sick and he didn't want to eat dinner so I didn't want to cook for both of us when he wasn't eating.

I basically thought that I would go for a nice treat as well you can understand from being a single disabled parent with cancer it can be a little bit stressful especially considering what I've had to go through with fighting and advocating for my own right to actually have the surgery in the first place I was at like 120 odd days from the emergency referral. I'd had an absolutely terrible time of it because I was allergic to the lidocaine and they gave me an ultimatum of either accepting that or not having the biopsy and then that led to further delays and then ended up getting a transfer of care to another hospital because they were literally just so many red flags.

The way that the community have continued to treat me with such narcissistic abusive tendencies has always played on me but this is just really taking the p especially when the next comment was "yeah I was thinking of coming out of my driveway in my car and I didn't see you at first you really should get some lights on that thing!"

I'm sorry but what the actual f is going through these people's minds?!? I could have been just walking down the road as a normal able-bodied person to go and get my fish and chips and they would have all said nothing at all but because I'm in a wheelchair they all feel that they suddenly need to have an opinion and are rallying around the inappropriate comment rather than joining in and having a laugh they've all taken it seriously and I honestly just don't know what the actual f*** to think right now I'm not being funny but considering leaving your driveway when your car isn't even on like I'm just hoping that the community here can kind of help because I never use my wheelchair in the dark for the main reason that as everybody knows you can't actually see where you're going in order to make sure you don't have pot holes and God knows what else.

I think they all think they're being helpful but actually at this point it's abusive and hurtful!

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  • orangeapple57
    orangeapple57 Scope Member Posts: 49 Contributor

    Ps sorry for the poor grammar and misinterpreted words but I'm using a Google dictation and it's not always great as well as the fact that there's a tech issue when using this function that repeats the lines every time you do a new paragraph.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 7,203 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @orangeapple57, sorry this has happened to you, it sounds rough. Your point about someone wearing dark clothing is a good one. You wouldn't really think twice if someone was on foot and those on the road should be looking out for any more vulnerable road users anyway. I totally get how the unwanted criticisms and comments can really get you down, especially when it comes from people in your community.

    Do you think you'd like to find some lights to help you navigate in the dark, or are you happy with your chair as it is?

    Just so you know, I've taken the names out of your screenshots to make sure no one can identify you or where you live ☺️

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,782 Championing
    edited November 30

    Block them on social media and move on.

    A collision between pedestrian & pedestrian isn't going to cause a huge amount of damage, whereas a collision between bike or wheelchair with pedestrian could be extremely serious and the pedestrian is likely to come off worse.

    I was on foot and nearly hit by a cyclist using the pavement recently, he was wearing dark clothes, no lights, going too fast & cut corner. Thankfully he swerved at the last second but it was scary for me.

    Anything with wheels should have lights or reflective clothes, I as a pedestrian wear reflective armbands when walking in the dark to make myself more visible.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,377 Championing

    I also wear reflective clothing as a pedestrian in winter even though I don't walk far.

    It is perfectly acceptable to tell a pedestrian in all dark clothing that they can't be seen in the dark as they might not have realised. There have been campaigns going around for years with slogans like 'see & be seen'. All road users have the responsibility to keep each other as safe as possible.

  • yves
    yves Scope Member Posts: 85 Empowering

    Speaking as a horse rider previously, Ive always wore reflective clothing when riding on the roads during the day. My horse did too, much to his annoyance. 😁

    If you have a powered wheelchair is does state in the highway code that you must have lights on your wheelchair if on the road. Im sure you can get some online that just clip on so your not attaching them permanently to your wheel chair that can be charged up at home. There's also reflective strips you can buy.

    It's always better to be safe when on the roads as there are some idiot drivers out there.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 7,203 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    That's a good idea, maybe some reflective clothes or accessories would help keep you safe if you wanted to go out at night. Especially if the routes that you're taking aren't very well lit and you're going onto the roads rather than the pavement.

    The people in your community might have been rude towards you and maybe they could have said it in a different way, but unfortunately you can't control that too much beyond blocking them. What you can do though is help yourself feel more confident going out in the dark and reflective clothing might be a good compromise if you can't alter your chair ☺️

  • orangeapple57
    orangeapple57 Scope Member Posts: 49 Contributor

    Thank you admin for removing the name I forgot that bit, but it did remove context. This is a remote village so I'm cut off without the car.i don't go out in my chair in the village often because it's inaccessible it was just the rarest of circumstances and I was wearing a lime green coat so quite visible if a light were shone on me. The fact I was told to drive to Halfords is the implication that they want me to have proper lights like a bike to go a few meters to the well lit chip van. It was absurd and delivered from a nosey bully in a bad way which made it like she was again harassing rather than friendly advice which may have been the case if others suggested it. I wasn't aware of anyone else on the paths or road and she overtook and used both with her bike at quite a speed. I hear it's good to have reflectors etc but the chair is fairly new and I'm only 2 weeks out of surgery so it was merely a means to an ends rather than a regular basis. My son normally legs it up to the van.

  • Littlefatfriend
    Littlefatfriend Online Community Member Posts: 285 Pioneering

    I'm pleased you can see the humour available in their ridiculous position/argument Orangeapple57!

    It's utterly absurd.

    Please imagine they're riding their bicycle and anything else the size of an electric wheelchair gets in their way. If they cannot adequately see what's in front of them it is they, not necessarily you, who need a light.

    I guarantee I know people who will be considerably smaller than you and your 'chair. Would those cyclists be happy to just run those people over because they can't see them?

    They're the people presenting a potential threat to pedestrians.

    It's completely ridiculous and wouldn't be allowed in a civilised world! Unfortunately...

    Perhaps it may be worth your getting a cycle light or two for this time of year? I expect they'll be available cheap second-hand, and they're fairly indestructible.

    People!

    😹

  • orangeapple57
    orangeapple57 Scope Member Posts: 49 Contributor

    Yes and in sort of summarising everything that everyone said I think partly it's the absurdity of what's been said and it's not applied to everyone it's it's targeted at me and the reason why it's upset me so much is the who not necessarily the what.

    Thinking back over the situation every single time that we leave the house and pursue anything on foot i.e the fish van or church or just going for a stroll around the village we get jumped on for one thing or another every single time which then reduces how much we feel welcome being seen outside the house.

    Just taking for example the fish fan I've been tutted at and despite following the other vehicles in the way that they'd parked was then chastised under muttered breaths for daring to copy the way that they'd parked. So I've already in my mind discounted the possibility of being able to go to the van using my car. My son has felt very under pressure going to the van because of the way that others speak to him or staring glare at him and he feels uncomfortable and uneasy. Even notice this behavior and went out the back to help serve him so that he wouldn't have to engage with the adults out the front. He's not normally shy but the fact that we have had ongoing bullying since we moved in over eight years ago and one of our neighbours said that it was their dying wish for their partner to leave the village and get free from the bullying it's become a situation more about if anyone says anything it's never taken in context anymore because you know that there is a more sinister anti you intention behind it.

    I really wish to be free if it and this woman's opinions.

  • bookrabbit
    bookrabbit Online Community Member Posts: 243 Empowering

    People can be dreadful can't they. I would have loved to take myself out in my chair last week when it was warmer but I couldn't face running the gauntlet of unfriendly neighbours:(

    Luckily they have left my son alone so far when he goes to the chippy. That's the only time he ever leaves the house and I would hate them to take it away from him.

    I try telling myself that I wouldn't want to be friends with such horrible people anyway but it makes things so much worse than they need to be. As if life isn't difficult enough already.…

    At least the chippy are helping your son and making it easier for him.

    Keep your chin up. They are ignorant and stupid and only make themselves look bad.

  • orangeapple57
    orangeapple57 Scope Member Posts: 49 Contributor

    I don't get why people have to get mean it just uses up more spoons.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,377 Championing
    edited December 1

    Bicycles being ridden between sunset and sunrise must have lights fitted as well. The cyclist was also riding illegally if they didn't have lights fitted.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,019 Championing

    My powerchair has lights, ndicators, and a horn. It is a road going class 3 powerchair.

    If the powerchair is a pavement only class 2 powerchair, it likely won't, but personally, I would at least stick a hi-viz vest over the seat back.