PIP AR2 light-touch review
Hello, after searching the internet and various relevant forums, i am unable to find a difinitive answer, therefore i am hoping someone here can help.
My partner who is autistic and has ADHD has recently received a PIP AR2 light-touch review form.
After hours of research, i was hoping to make his life easier without result leading to him being very stressed.
The answers i have found online are very conflicting.
In questions 13, 14 and 15 he is asked about any changes from when he was last awarded PIP with tick boxes for no and yes.
There has been no changes so it seems correct to just tick no. However, from what i have read online, it has mostly been said to treat this as a new claim giving full details on how his condition affects him, yet i have found one site that says:
If your needs have not changed then we don’t think it is necessary to give details of how yourcondition still affects you in the way that we suggest for the AR1 review form above. This isbecause the light touch review is based on the assumption that your needs will still be the same. Itshould be sufficient just to tick ‘No’. -benefitsandwork.co.uk
This would help reduce my partner's stress, although i do not want to cause him more stress by telling him to tick no and he then has his PIP stopped.
My question is which advice should i take as being correct?
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The AR2 form is light touch. Usually for 10 year awards and State Pensioners. What you have quoted from the benefits information is what I have come across. Members of this forum have stated they select no change on this AR2 form. Selecting no change can avoid another assessment too, especially if you are not trying to increase his award or he is already on enhanced rates. Being honest I always suggest filling the form out like a new claim with the AR1 form but this is a different form. Unfortunately I have not yet filled one out, though my next review will be light touch. This is the best of my knowledge on this form. It is a hard one as we are programmed not to write - no change.
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Hi @Jane66 - with the normal PIP review forms (AR1) then you should give as much detail as in your initial claim form. However, to the best of my understanding, then these 'light touch reviews' (PIP AR2 forms) are different, so, if nothing has changed, then simple 'no' answers where appropriate should suffice. In this instance I'd agree with the Benefits and Work website.
I have to add that, altho these have been around for a couple of years, we've had absolutely no feedback unfortunately from those of our members that have gone through this. I can only say that when my light touch review is 'reviewed,' then I will just be giving simple 'no' answers.
My case may, or may not, be an oddity, because we haven't had any feedback on this either, but initially I was awarded PIP in 2017, then got it extended, then had a letter saying I had a 'light touch' review but the 10 years was from when I'd first been seen in 2017, not the date on my letter.
No definitive advice can be therefore given, but I'll be following the advice that Benefits and Work have sensibly also given.
Sorry not to have helped, but if you do decide to give simple 'no' answers with his AR2 form, it would be great if you could come back & let us know the outcome; that way you could help others (& perhaps say on the Benefits and Work website too). I hope I don't presume. May I add my best wishes too; your partner has life long issues & I'm sure will appreciate all of your efforts, including PIP forms!
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Sorry @Trevor_PIP - but I only saw your comment after I posted mine as it can take me a long time to type (& therefore post). Please would you indicate where you saw, 'Members of this forum have stated they select no change on this AR2 form?'
I could have missed this, but at the same time I want to answer a post, like yourself, to the best of my knowledge/understanding. I'm totally unaware of any member saying this, but will happily stand corrected.
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No problem, i will look back and find it.
Found MrsBB, the same as Jane in this thread. She had read the same benefit information about ticking "no change" and we discussed that saying it would probably be OK as not a thorough review, but she had not got her AR2 form yet. She was a bit concerned!
Sure there is another thread.... Looking through my comments.
Sttill looking, it may have been a comment on the thread mentioned above with MrsBB but sure is was titled AR2 in the thread.
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I have checked back and the only thread I found was MrsBB's. One member did post and commented on ticking "no change" and the DWP recommend it and a lot of people do, but he did not actually say he had. Confusing thread as AR1 and AR2 forms being discussed too. It could have been this thread I was referring to.
I am sure I have read about people ticking "no change" on AR2 forms though, but I could not find it on this site, possibly another website.
@Jane66 please ignore my comment - "Members of this forum have stated they select no change on this AR2 form" in this instance.
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Looking at the AR2, Personal Independence Payment Award Review - How your disability affects you , it clearly states for each question, by ticking "No", you should then move onto the next appropriate question. This is a lot different to the AR1, so I would go with what they say. If "No", just tick the box and move on. Don't overthink or overcomplicate things. By having received an indefinite award, the DWP really aren't expecting you to put anything if there is no change.
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Thanks Fred!
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I fear you have made assumptions @Trevor_PIP - I would totally agree that we can assume it would be 'likely' that our 'assumptions' are in part totally correct, i.e. if you already have the enhanced component for either/both component(s) of PIP, then, as you can't increase your award, to indicate 'yes' your needs have changed, i.e. increased, wouldn't benefit a claimant even if their symptoms had worsened.
However, we can't 'presume' based on other's known experiences, which are as yet unknown.
Commonsense should prevail, yet I would argue politely that unfortunately we do not as yet know to give that assurance sadly. Even if you could find a single example, in the grand scale of things, that's not objective. Any Gov't statistics about this?
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What assumptions have I made please, the last post is not from me, it is from another member. I just said thanks.
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Thank you everyone for your input.
My partner has ticked 'NO' to the questions and sent the form. I will let you know the outcome.
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Thank you.for letting us know and it would help others in the same situation. Excellent!
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