Applying for PIP for my hip pain and how it affects me daily
Hi,
I am applying for PIP again (as I lost the appeal for Mandatory Reconsideration Notice, was awarded 0 points again) for my hip pain. I decided to apply for a self employed delivery job (out of desperation as I need money) few months ago, been working since then but it's a huge struggle. I can only walk a few minutes till I have to rest in between and if a customer has stairs, I have to ask him/her to come down or I leave their items on the ground floor. It's just food deliveries, usually weighing no more than 2 or 3KG.
And to collect the item, I can ask the restaurant to drop off their parcel to me. I use my car for delivery. And it takes a few minutes to drive to a customer, most of them are usually located within 1 mile.
I'm wondering if DWP would deny me PIP because I'm doing a job that's totally not suitable with my hip condition. Since it's self employed, I often take many days of rest in between because of the sheer lower back pain I get along with hip and frequently get pins & needles.
I'm thinking if I have to mention about my job or not. And if they ask me what job I do, am I able to legally say "I don't wish to answer" or do I have to tell them?
Kindly please let me know. Thanks.
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P.S. I also go to gym because my physiotherapist showed me what exercises I must do for my hips. I think that's another point that DWP would want to raise; "how are you going to the gym if you have hip pain and what workout do you do"…
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Hi @barokut Yes the DWP does ask about your job when claiming PIP.
They assess how your condition affects your daily living and mobility.
The DWP will consider your work situation as part of the assessment but they focus on the impact of your condition rather than your employment status.
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I think that would be your stumbling block. But if It helps out, then you should get them to get in touch with your doctor for clarification of why you go to the gym.
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nothing to do with your health but just make sure you are insured to deliver food with your own car
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to be honest, my physiotherapist said I should go to the gym to do leg exercises to try to improve the conditions about my hips. But I've been for ages and no improvement.
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not sure what my food insurance got to do with my pip claim. they won't ask that, even in a tribunal court. they just would know that I would be delivering and that's it.
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never said it would i said make sure you have the right hire and reward insurance on your own car for doing food deliveries
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PIP is not based on employment status, and the forms do not ask whether you are working. It is a benefit for both employed and unemployed people. I work thirty hours a week myself and receive enhanced mobility and enhanced daily living, and across three assessments since 2018 they have focused only on how my conditions affect me against the descriptors. I did tell them at the assessment that I was working, but their focus was simply on whether my employer had put any reasonable adjustments in place to support me.
The reasonable adjustments your employer has put in place so that you can continue working actually strengthen your claim. They show that your condition has a substantial impact on your day to day functioning and that you cannot carry out your role without support.
Everything you have described, including difficulty with stairs, needing frequent rest days, pain and pins and needles, customers coming to you to collect their deliveries, and the restaurant bringing items out to you, clearly shows significant functional limitation.
Please do not worry about the gym either. The location does not matter. If the physio had told you to do the same exercises at home, in a park, or in a swimming pool, it would still be treated as therapy. If you are only going because your physio has given you specific hip exercises, that is not “going to the gym” in the usual sense, it is prescribed therapy.
You can explain that at the gym you are doing slow, targeted physio movements rather than general fitness, that you still struggle, and that the exercises do not remove your mobility problems. Doing physio in a gym setting does not show that you can walk far or manage stairs, it simply shows that you are trying to manage your condition, which falls under the managing treatments activity for PIP.
Your claim was not successful the first time, but with PIP it really does come down to how you word things and how you describe your circumstances. You might just need a bit of support with how you present it. Keeping simple notes of your rest, bad days, when the pain flares, when you cannot complete deliveries or normal everyday tasks, and what adaptations you rely on will really help. Evidence from your physio or GP explaining your limitations will also make a difference.
When you fill in the forms or go to an assessment, focus on your worst days, the help you need, and the after effects such as pain, fatigue and recovery time. It might also be worth speaking to Citizens Advice or a welfare rights adviser, and gathering strong medical evidence so your situation is properly understood.
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