Universal Basic Income: What Would It Mean for Disabled and Long Term Sick?

David cameron got pip for his son

I’m not sure how you’re defining “income,” but for practical day-to-day purposes, PIP isn’t treated as income. If it were, Student Finance would count it and make deductions, but they don’t. The same applies in situations like bankruptcy or a DRO. Even UC doesnt. So it’s not entirely clear what definition you’re using, but it doesn’t reflect how “income” is generally understood in practice.

Didn't Sweden try something like this a few years ago?.

I think we’re actually saying similar things now. In a literal sense it can be 'seen' as income, but in the context of benefits it’s treated differently, which is why people make the distinction. That’s more what I was getting at which you seem to be understanding now.

Just let it go now.

Oh ok wasnt you saying pip is an income it was in response of that ? Hope that makes it clearer for you

I can't see how UBI could work or be afforded come to that. It is another of those ideas that should be shelved, for good. Whether the Greens will hang onto it, who knows. As they've said it would take so long, it surely is a non starter. Time to go yet, so many more ideas for them to come up with, probably none of them suitable. Fix what we have with no other name changes would be better.

It is a real shame that they changed From Disability Living Allowance to Personal Independence Payment, it was so more straightforward & on that, you could be awarded for life, saving long term/never getting better disabled suffering damn assessments & would have saved the government money too!

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-universal-basic-income

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/06/children-care-guaranteed-income/