Hi, my name is Justinhicks2026! UC amount query

Justinhicks2026
Justinhicks2026 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
edited April 9 in Universal Credit (UC)

So here goes we was on income support from 2017 was advised to stay on this all through won ESA support group however in 2024 was migrated to universal credit with transition amount of 390 we are a couple my wife has always claimed carer's allowance as I'm on enhanced pip both rates so surrenderd my sdp so can claim this so the 390 was for other premiums on legacy benefits I was then awarded lwca all through I believe this amount either should have been added to transition amount to account for deductions of carers allowance on universal credit calculation my question is all calculations show we should be getting at the time of migration 628 standard allowance 428 lwca 390 transition amount 198 cares premium then deduct carers allowance leaving 1200 a month but this was not done we had the standard allowance of 628 cares premium 198 transition amount of 390 giving 1200 but they deducted carers allowance from this which is the mistake as I have been awarded lwca now my transition amount of 390 has gone however they are deducting carers allowance when the lwca amount and carer's premium is added leaving us about just over 800 a month as a couple to manage on is this correct amount as I believe it should be 1200 a month also every march the system gives us the correct amount of 1200 and says carers affects amount you get so they are aware it's in payment and still gives the 1200 but this is quickly altered by job centre to old error figures can anyone help on the amount for a couple a month that should be received as a couple claiming carers allowance with the migration from income support amount carried over to universal credit please

Tagged:

Comments

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,642 Championing
    edited April 9

    Your post is a bit hard to follow without paragraphs.

    Universal Credit works by adding up entitlements, then making any deductions.

    After migration you previously received Transitional Protection from legacy benefits. UC treats all TP the same, it doesn't matter why you get it.

    After you were awarded LCWRA it was correct that your Transitional Protection reduced to zero. Transitional Protection reduces when Universal Credit entitlement goes up after migration.

    It's also correct that the Carers Allowance (in your wife's name) continues being deducted. CA is always treated as unearned income and deducted in full from the UC award. The addition of LCWRA wouldn't change anything.

    Turn2Us has a great guide to TP.

    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/get-support/information-for-your-situation/universal-credit-uc-transitional-protection/what-is-universal-credit-uc-transitional-protection

  • Justinhicks2026
    Justinhicks2026 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    The question is I had a transition amount to account for carers allowance being deducted of 390 this was coming over from income support managed migration so now this has disappeared what should our monthly payments be with me in lwca carers premium standard rate less carers and the fact that transition amount is removed

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,642 Championing
    edited April 9

    You received Transitional Protection because under Universal Credit your award was less than on legacy benefits.

    It didn't have anything to do with the Carers Allowance deduction.

    Have you tried one of the benefit calculators? Use your current circumstances.

    https://www.gov.uk/benefits-calculators

  • Justinhicks2026
    Justinhicks2026 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    No this is not the case as was on enhanced pip both rates on income support so this accounted for them so trying to work out the monthly entitlement now for us as a couple on lwca myself less transition amount removed

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,642 Championing
    edited April 9

    At the point of migration if your Universal Credit award (before any deductions) is lower than legacy benefits, Transitional Protection is added.

    Universal Credit is different to legacy benefits. Being on PIP increased your legacy benefits but under Universal Credit it really doesn't count for much at all because disability premiums don't exist on Universal Credit.

    If you click on the purple text in my previous reply it will take you to the benefit calculators.

    Alternatively a local welfare rights organisation or the Scope helpline can assist you with a calculation to check your UC award is currently correct.

    https://advicefinder.turn2us.org.uk/

    https://www.scope.org.uk/helpline

  • Justinhicks2026
    Justinhicks2026 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Done these it gives 1200 a month but not what we are getting

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,642 Championing
    edited April 9

    Are your results 1200 a month before or after the Carers Allowance deduction?

    Universal Credit works by adding up entitlements and making deductions afterwards.

    An award of 1200 before the deduction would seem to be correct.

  • Justinhicks2026
    Justinhicks2026 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    After when worked out but we get 800 this is my problem as legacy benefits was in correct at time of migration so those figures stick

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,642 Championing
    edited April 9

    As we've established likely your Universal Credit award is correct as things stand following your change of circumstances (being awarded LCWRA element which removed the Transitional Protection).

    If you feel your legacy benefits were incorrectly calculated at the time of migration I'd suggest you get proper advice on this from a trained benefits advisor.

    https://advicefinder.turn2us.org.uk/

Categories