PIP award review form. What's the normal timescale? How much detail do you need to go into?

PippaT1966 · August 2021

My daughter's been sent a PIP Award Review form today. She initially applied in Jan 2018, then won an appeal in August 2019. The appeal documents stated that she would be awarded until March 2022, but we need to return the AR form by the end of August.
Is this the normal timescale? Also, how much detail do people go into in the form? Nothing has changed (severe ME), she still needs her family to care for her, and can't walk more than 20 metres.
Any advice would be helpful, thank you.

MarkM88 · August 2021

You need to treat the review as a new claim so to speak. Clearly demonstrating how she is impacted on a daily basis in relation to the descriptors that PIP set. You need to ensure you evidence exactly what happens when this activity is attempted, the best way to do this is to give 2 real world recent examples of what happened when she attempted that activity.

There is no point just stating she cant do a task, or she needs help, or she cant do it, you really do have to go into detail with the examples.

Under no circumstances write nothing has changed.

PippaT1966 · August 2021

Thanks for the responses, it's interesting how different it is to the DWP guidance.

Quick question re: the form. In her report back from the DWP it makes statements such as, 'X cannot cook or prepare food at all.' In the AR form, where it says to tell us where something has changed, do I repeat this statement, or go into detail? She literally cannot cook anything, but can perhaps once or twice a week microwave could something I've left out for her. However, she'll need to lie down for several hours after as it is very tiring for her ME.

missybpink · August 2021

Hi Pippa, I too have M.E, I basically wrote the thing I couldn't do and explained the reasons why and explained what happened as to why I don't do it, for example I don't take heavy saucepans off the stove anymore for my own safety as last time I picked the pan up and due to a lack of energy and feeling weak I couldn't get a proper grip and it slipped and went over the floor ? have you heard of the ME Association, check out thier website I got a PIP booklet that gives helpful advice for how to fill out the form for someone with M.E ****

PippaT1966 · August 2021

That's a good thought, thank you for reminding me about the ME association. I hope you were successful, it's tough with invisible disabilities.

tru88le · August 2021

To incorrectly paraphrase mr [removed by moderator] give two examples to support each descriptor.

Cher_Alumni · August 2021

PippaT1966 said:
Quick question re: the form. In her report back from the DWP it makes statements such as, 'X cannot cook or prepare food at all.' In the AR form, where it says to tell us where something has changed, do I repeat this statement, or go into detail? She literally cannot cook anything, but can perhaps once or twice a week microwave could something I've left out for her. However, she'll need to lie down for several hours after as it is very tiring for her ME.

Hi @PippaT1966

It's definitely best, as others have advised, to go into as much detail as possible when evidencing how your daughter meets specific descriptors i.e. giving 2 'real-life' examples illustrating what happened when it was last attempted, where it was, who was there/how they helped and any implications.

The issue of whether a descriptor can be carried out reliably is also of utmost important, as stated by pipinfo:

To be assessed as able to carry out an activity to the level described in a descriptor, a claimant must satisfy the descriptor “reliably”, that is: safely, to an acceptable standard, repeatedly and in reasonable time.

Good luck and please let us know how you get on.

PIP award review form. What's the normal timescale? How much detail do you need to go into?

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