PIP Review - 1st Time

Lizzy28 · October 2022

Hello, My daughter claims PIP, I am her mum and her apointee. I'm likely to be filling in the review form. Do I fill in the form from my daughter's point of view or my own? She's claimed since 2017.
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poppy123456 · October 2022

When I fill my daughters forms in I do it as though I’m her. You should treat the review as a new claim, even if there’s been no changes.

Lizzy28 · October 2022

Thank you. Its very difficult because her issues are learning difficulties, social anxiety, autism. So some of the form isn't applicable but still needs answers.

poppy123456 · October 2022

If you think the activity doesn't apply then just put something like "doesn't apply."But make sure you fully understand the descriptors before filling out the form.

My daughter also claims PIP for exactly the same conditions. There's several of the daily living activies that applies to my daughter and her last review last year (paper based) she scored 17 points for daily living. 12 for mobility (following and planning a journey)

Although PIP isn't awarded based on a diagnosis and you don't get two people the same because we are all affected differently by these conditions. There should still be more than half of the daily living activities where she should score points for. My daughter scored points for activity 1/3/4/6/7/9/10.

It does help to have some understanding of the descriptors and what they mean because you'll be very surprised where points can be scored and you wouldn't think they apply when they do. Have a read through this link, it's long but worth a read. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

You should also include a couple of real world incidents of exactly what happened the last time she attempted each descriptor that applies to her. Adding detailed information such as where she was, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were. You should aim for at least half an A4 side of paper per descriptor that applies.

Lizzy28 · October 2022

poppy123456 said:

If you think the activity doesn't apply then just put something like "doesn't apply."But make sure you fully understand the descriptors before filling out the form.
My daughter also claims PIP for exactly the same conditions. There's several of the daily living activies that applies to my daughter and her last review last year (paper based) she scored 17 points for daily living. 12 for mobility (following and planning a journey)
Although PIP isn't awarded based on a diagnosis and you don't get two people the same because we are all affected differently by these conditions. There should still be more than half of the daily living activities where she should score points for. My daughter scored points for activity 1/3/4/6/7/9/10.
It does help to have some understanding of the descriptors and what they mean because you'll be very surprised where points can be scored and you wouldn't think they apply when they do. Have a read through this link, it's long but worth a read. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria
You should also include a couple of real world incidents of exactly what happened the last time she attempted each descriptor that applies to her. Adding detailed information such as where she was, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were. You should aim for at least half an A4 side of paper per descriptor that applies.

Thank you so much. Really helpful. Did you fill in the form from your point of view or your daughter's?

chiarieds · October 2022

Altho your daughter has previously received PIP, as Poppy says, as her appointee, you should fill in her review as if you were her.

This link may also help: https://www.mentalhealthandmoneyadvice.org/en/welfare-benefits/pip-mental-health-guide/introduction-to-pip/can-i-claim-pip-for-mental-health/

As Poppy advises, do give a couple of examples as to the difficulty your daughter faces for each applicable activity/descriptor. The assessor will likely not be able to see your daughter's initial claim form, so do fill it in with as much detail as if it was an initial claim form.

poppy123456 · October 2022

My point of view but as if i was her. If i filled it in with her point of view the form would be completely empty. She doesn't have any opinion on her conditions and she's not the slightest bit interested in benefits of any kind, all she knows is she receives money in her bank because i transfer it to her.

When i fill out the form i type notes to start with and do a little at a time and then put it away until the next day. Everytime i think of something or she does something which i think could be dangerous if i wasn't at home then i add it to the notes. Once everything is complete i type everything again and save all of it onto my computer.

Did you have help with the first form or did you do it yourself?

Lizzy28 · October 2022

poppy123456 said:

My point of view but as if i was her. If i filled it in with her point of view the form would be completely empty. She doesn't have any opinion on her conditions and she's not the slightest bit interested in benefits of any kind, all she knows is she receives money in her bank because i transfer it to her.
When i fill out the form i type notes to start with and do a little at a time and then put it away until the next day. Everytime i think of something or she does something which i think could be dangerous if i wasn't at home then i add it to the notes. Once everything is complete i type everything again and save all of it onto my computer.
Did you have help with the first form or did you do it yourself?

I did it myself. She already was claiming DLA. I think it was a longer form. I can particularly remember writing that my daughter literally had to be ordered to wash/shower on a regular basis. Change her clothes. As mentally, she didn't see the need. I still wash her hair even now. It's long and thick, and if I left it to her, she doesn't rinse enough, ends up knotty, etc. Thanks for your advice Poppy

poppy123456 · October 2022

Yes the PIP2 is longer than the review form but don't be fooled by the shorter form. Make sure you don't just put She can't do something or she needs guidance for a certain descriptor. Tell them in full detail but try not to give her life story.

You also need to sign the form, not her. Review waiting times are currently extremely long. She will most likely need another assessment because most have them. It could either be by telephone, video call or face to face. Paper based assessments are rare but possible, if they have enough of information.

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