Pip awarded but only basic

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Amazonianup
Amazonianup Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor
Hey,

I'm not very well I had no assessment, but I was awarded basic daily  living payment. I feel insulted as the letter said I have no overwhelming psychological impairments. This could not be further from the truth, it also makes other assumptions that are not true. What can I do?  I'm not very well and I don't want to loose my basic daily living award? I can understand that even with my anxiety I don't get basic mobility,  it I have had mental health issues records atleast since 2010 and  never claimed. It also said I scored 0 On communications get I don't currently talk to my social worker but mentions I do and I don't have any friends or family. What do I need to do to get to financial support until I'm ready to work? It just feels so humiliating. I really can't work at the moment let alone look after myself. The cap push me towards drink, I just need a chance to get better and manage my health. If seen so many people who were not even homeless like me but they get help. I'm repeatedly blighted because one day I want to work. Every time my issues are minimised.

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    If you disagree and think it's possible to score more points for a higher award then you can challenge that decision by first requesting the Mandatory Reconsideration. (MR) you should put this in writing stating where and why you think you should have scored those points.
    Include a couple of real world incidents of exactly what happened the last time you attempted each descriptor that applies to you. Adding detailed information such as where you were, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were.
    The money likely outcome of the MR will be the decision remains the same. If this happens you can proceed to Tribunal.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Deppi said:

    I believe a WCRA can bring more money to the OP, they should look at it.


    That would be LCWRA which is part of Universal Credit. @Amazonianup what other benefits exactly are you claiming?
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    Deppi said:
    The daily standard is not the basic, the standard mobility is the basic,
    OP refers to basic daily living and clearly means standard rate daily living.

    Describing a standard rate Mobility only award as a ‘basic’ rate PIP award is misleading even though it is the lowest PIP award that can be made.
  • Amazonianup
    Amazonianup Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor
    edited October 2022
    I have been living on UC standard over 25. I stopped working three months ago. I didn't get cost of living payment because I worked. I just been awarded pip basic daily rate yesterday. But due to mental health waiting for help I started to decline worse than when I was rough sleeping and have issues I didn't expect to have. I'm very unwell. I am waiting on wca assessment. I am also waiting for help on nhs for therapy. I have an award to help me financially, I just need help on nh s now. But It's a 9 month wait before any therapy.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    If you’re privately renting your home and you are under 35, your PIP award will mean you will now be entitled to 1 bedroom rate of Local housing Allowance. You will also be exempt from the benefit cap. You need to make sure you put a message on your journal to tell them that you have been awarded daily living PIP.

  • Amazonianup
    Amazonianup Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor
    Sorry where it said 'cap' in first post it supposed to say it 'has'.  I haven't been coping since if been living inside. My Drs trying to help with medication a d calling me to adjust medication etc. I'm just saying I'm getting worse waiting for therapy, but the money issues last three months did not help living on standard Universal Credit. But I have just been awarded some pip, so I won't use food banks. 
  • Amazonianup
    Amazonianup Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor
    Deppi said:
    I feel the OP has confused PIP with getting a benefit for inability to work, which is provided through other means, along with further benefits for disability WCRA etc. Also the"cap" mentioned, not sure if its the benefit cap? Being awarded PIP means the cap does not apply to the OP. PIP also brings a number of side benefits such as council tax reduction. 

    The daily standard is not the basic, the standard mobility is the basic, and again i argue its money you get that you would not find anywhere. Standard daily is £61.85 monthly or £3216.20 per year. Thats too much to drink as per OP suggestion.

    I sound harsh, but i feel the OP is at a lot better place than before, and a good place to make their adult choices whether they decide to gamble with an MR or appeal.

    You wont hear lies from me, part if my condition, its who i am. Appreciate and be grateful and use clear head how to proceed.

    I believe a WCRA can bring more money to the OP, they should look at it.

    Best of luck to the OP with what comes next.
    I'm not saying I want it to drink I'm not saying I'm offended by the amount. I'm grateful for an award. I'm offended how they have interpreted my psychological wellbeing. I'm not a scrounger. I'm describing how the process is making my experience worse to cope. I'm saying because I can't cope at the moment that's why I went to the Drs and stopped working it's because I worked when rough sleeping im in this mess. I keep ignoring my bodies stress on top of my poor health. People assume I'm coping when I'm not. So don't judge me as someone who wants money to drink. 

    I started to watch documentary series and in every episode all the wild zoo animals show they are fine when they are sick, so they don't get eaten by predators. That's the only way I can describe my experience and now I need help to get better...
  • hannabethxx
    hannabethxx Online Community Member Posts: 19 Connected
    @Amazonianup if you are really struggling mentally go back to your gp. They should have a welfare officer or consultant who can help you. I went last Monday, had an appointment with the welfare officer on the Friday and we’ve set a plan. You have to push to get help mentally, if you don’t you’ll get nothing. It’s all about how much you want it. 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 17,137 Championing
    Hi @Amazonianup -  I don't know if this is something you know about, but have you looked into IAPT? It's a service that may help, & you can self refer. Please see:https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talking-therapies-medicine-treatments/talking-therapies-and-counselling/nhs-talking-therapies/  & https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/mental-health/find-a-psychological-therapies-service/


  • Amazonianup
    Amazonianup Online Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor
    I am waiting on services. I was told 9 months. I already have housing. I went from rough sleeping on and off over years to having a place. I'm just annoyed at how they have interpreted underplayed my daily dificulties. It said I can cook a meal, which anything other than toast or pizza is a lie. I can't cook for other people I put in a meal of chicken pre made in fun and I burned it. If i got tins from food parcels I haven't used, I'd just cook say rice in microwave and eat this separate from the other food. I'm worried Drs won't understand me if they can't even understand me etc I can't plan a meal now am I supposed to make a .plan to get my health bak
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    It sounds really difficult that you are still waiting on services @Amazonianup. Not least because you feel they have underplayed your daily difficulties too. 

    In an ideal world, what would support look like for you at the moment? We are here for you, even if we can only listen to you.

    You don't have to face this, or anything else, alone if you don't want to. Sending you hugs  :)