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wendy1
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What will this Government come up with next, planning to give PIP receivers vouchers instead of cash. So everywhere you use cash, like if you have Direct Debits these Companies will need to accept vouchers.
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£200 pound milk voucher lol0
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I think it's a total disgrace, what about people that needs special foods. They should just put a gun to our heads1
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PIP Question.
Am I right in saying that the implementation of the green paper depends on the Conservatives winning the next election? I believe the next election will be around November of this year.
Without PIP my life will be ruined as I can barely manage a few feet without my elbow crutches.
Vouchers will be of no use to me.
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@brian1971
Regarding the implementation of the Green Paper, it's true that the timing and outcome depend on the results of the next general election. The Green Paper, which proposes reforms to the PIP process, is a Conservative Party policy document. If the Conservatives win the next election, it's likely that they will implement the proposed changes. However, if another party wins, the implementation of the Green Paper would depend on their policies and priorities.
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Labour lately have been talking about getting more disabled people into work, I just hope they aren't going to be just as bad as the tories.
I do think labour will win though, so hopefully things will calm down a bit after the election.1 -
Hi KG100,
Where did you see or hear about Labour getting more disabled people into work, I hope too their not going to be as bad as the Tories.
I'm one that cannot work due my illness, but if that's what happens there's nothing we can do about it.0 -
I read about it in several newspapers online, one was on inews, Labour said they'll target job centres and benefits assessments to give disabled people more support into work.
They don't mention vouchers or anything like that though.1 -
Hi KG100,
Thanks for replying. No matter who is in power, they will always target the disabled. I would like to see the Government live the way we have to, they would never survive.2 -
@Biblioklept Thank you for providing the link to the green paper. While I acknowledge the document is quite lengthy, it is imperative that everyone actively participates in the policymaking process by voicing their perspectives. Although this is a proposal from the current Tory party, ensuring comprehensive public feedback can influence policy directions across the political spectrum, including prospective future governments.
These are just some of the proposals from the green paper.
If DWP were to consider other ways of supporting people with disabilities and long-term health conditions apart from providing regular cash payments, it could continue to contribute to people’s extra costs through alternative models which could include:• Catalogue/shop scheme: in this kind of scheme, there would be an approved list from which disabled people could choose items at reduced or no cost. This would likely work better for equipment and aids rather than for services.• Voucher scheme: in this kind of scheme, disabled people could receive vouchers to contribute towards specific costs. It could work for both equipment/aids and for services.• A receipt-based system: this would involve claimants buying aids, appliances, or services themselves, and then providing proof of their purchase to claim back a contribution towards the cost. This could work in a similar way to Access to Work, which provides grants for equipment, adaptations, and other costs to help disabled people to start and stay in work.• One-off grants: these could contribute towards specific, significant costs such as for home adaptations or expensive equipment. It could involve a person supplying medical evidence of their condition to demonstrate the need for equipment or adaptations.
While these alternative models help people with the extra costs of their disability or health condition, other forms of support including health care, social services care provision and respite are important to help people to realise their full potential and live independently.We would like to understand whether some people receiving PIP who have lower, or no extra costs, may have better outcomes from improved access to treatment and support than from a cash payment.0 -
Woodbine, I fully agree with you. However, even if the government isn't listening and this is just a paper exercise, these ludicrous proposals must be challenged. It's in no one's interest to ignore them. Failing to address these propositions head-on may inadvertently lend them credibility and allow them to gain traction.
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I will say, the last consultation from the DWP was on the WCA, and only some of the original proposals were moved forward with. So it is possible to make a change with consultation responses.1
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That is highly unlikely with this latest consultation about PIP and sick notes. Even the WCA consultation changes are not due to be fully implemented until late 2024/early 2025, and they are relatively minor changes when compared to what they are suggesting to do with PIP.Danny123 said:
Are you saying that they maybe able to push these through before the next election?Jimm_Scope said:I will say, the last consultation from the DWP was on the WCA, and only some of the original proposals were moved forward with. So it is possible to make a change with consultation responses.0 -
There are some changes to the WCA that are supposed to come into effect around early 2025 most likely. Given how quick the DWP works anyway, it could be even later. They changed some of it's criteria.Danny123 said:Sorry I find it very hard to read due to my OCD , what are the wca changes ?
- Removing 'Mobilising' activity criteria
- Reducing points awarded for 'Getting About' criteria
- Amending the 'Substantial Risk' regulation: This change has not been fully detailed out, however they want to make it only apply in specific circumstances unlike it's current more broad application which takes each persons situation into account each assessment. The government said they will 'work with clinicians to determine the specific criteria where Substantial Risk can apply and what medical evidence is needed for it'
Their reason for removing 'Mobilising' and lowering the points for 'Getting About' is due to more work from home opportunities.
But work from home doesn't suit everyone, and the government are also actively trying to end work from home in many places such as the Civil Service.0 -
Hi folks,
I've had a look at the proposed Green Paper and was intending to fill it in as best as I could but I'm sorry I just don't understand it, so I don't know what to say.0 -
Hi @wendy1, Please don't feel bad if you can't manage it. There will be others who can't manage the form for a whole host of reasons, but I'm sure plenty of organisations and individual people will be filling it in to make sure there's a good mix of responses
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Hi Rosie, thank for your understanding and helpful words. I just want to do as much as I can to help myself and disabled people.1
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Am I seeing things or have I read a post wrong, the Government now are thinking about not paying PIP to people with Mental Health problems. What is this world coming to.0
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I know. The way the Tories treat disabled people in this country is disgusting!
It's only in the consulting stage right now. The DWP says payments will go in accounts as normal.
The fact that the Tories have lost the local elections, offers a glimmer of hope. It's shameful thar the Tories are demonising disabled people as a vote grabber, but the fact that they have bombed the local elections, means that people have finally had enough!
Disabled people need to be treated with dignity and respect. Hopefully the Tories will be gone soon.
All we have are rumours and speculation.
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Yes, hopefully the Tories will be gone and the new Government will treat disabled people with respect0
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What the hell, what is going to happen next. I've seen a post about ESA stopping and claimants having to apply for UC, if they don't apply for UC your payments will stop altogether. I'm in the understanding that if you came UC, your saying your fit to work. I'm one that's not able to work.
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