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Partner Moving In.. Who Do I Notify

charlotte84
charlotte84 Community member Posts: 95 Connected
Hello all just after a bit of advice as to who I notify to tell them my partner is moving in. Also he is on UC does he upload it on his journal under change of circumstances. I’m not on UC I’m on ESA. Child tax credit and child benefit and PiP. 
Thankyou all 

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,582 Disability Gamechanger
    Your partner needs to report a change of circumstances and tell them you are now living with them. They will then be sent a linking code.

    You will need to make a claim for UC and use the linking code to join both claims together. 

    Any income related ESA will continue for 2 weeks and then stop. If any part of it is contributions based this will continue. (£117.60/week) but it will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. 

    Your tax credits will then end once you claim UC. 

    Does your PIP include the daily living part? If so your partner can report caring for you and your UC will include the carers element. 

    If you’re in the support group for ESA then you’ll be entitled to the LCWRA from the start of your claim. 

    Does your partners UC already include the LCWRA element for their self? 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 9
    He needs to report a change through his UC journal.
    You will be required to claim UC.
    Your claim will be joined to his which will now be calculated as a couple.

    Your Tax Credits will stop immediately.
    If you get contribution based ESA that will continue but will be deducted from the UC payments.
    Any income based ESA will stop two weeks after you claim (actually I'm not sire if the two week run on applies in the case of forming a couple).
    Your child benefit and PIP are not affected.

    If you are in the ESA Support group you are entitled to be treated as having LCWRA for which extra money is paid in UC. However if your partner gets LCWRA already only one of you can get the LCWRA element.

    If your PIP includes Daily Living component he could claim the carer element of UC for looking after you while having the LCWRA element included for you.

    If you currently live alone and get a single person discount on your Council Tax then you need to tell your council and you will lose the single person discount.

    If you claim Housing Benefit and/or Council Tax Reduction you need to tell the local authority benefits team. Housing Benefit will stop but help with rent will instead been included through UC.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • charlotte84
    charlotte84 Community member Posts: 95 Connected
    @poppy123456 with my pip i have daily living and mobility my partner is already on pip and Lwrca for himself. Will it all stop when we claim together x
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,582 Disability Gamechanger
    Both your PIP awards will continue as normal. As advised you can only receive 1 LCWRA element per claim. So if one receives that element the other can claim the carers element, this way you'll receive the maximum UC for your circumstances.

    Does your partners PIP include the daily living part? If part of your ESA is Income Related does it include the Severe disability Premium? If so then when you claim UC it will include the SDP transitional protection.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 9
    If part of your ESA is Income Related does it include the Severe disability Premium? If so then when you claim UC it will include the SDP transitional protection. 
    I don't think that's correct. To the best of my knowledge SDP transitional element in UC is never payable where people go from being single claimants to becoming a couple.

    OP, your joint income is likely to be quite a bit less than when you lived apart but this will be offset by the reduction in your overheads living together (one set of bills).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,582 Disability Gamechanger
    calcotti said:
    If part of your ESA is Income Related does it include the Severe disability Premium? If so then when you claim UC it will include the SDP transitional protection. 
    I don't think that's correct. To the best of my knowledge SDP transitional element in UC is never payable where people go from being single claimants to becoming a couple.

    My thoughts here is because the partner is also claiming a qualifying disability benefit. Apologies if I’m not correct. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 9
    calcotti said:
    If part of your ESA is Income Related does it include the Severe disability Premium? If so then when you claim UC it will include the SDP transitional protection. 
    I don't think that's correct. To the best of my knowledge SDP transitional element in UC is never payable where people go from being single claimants to becoming a couple.

    My thoughts here is because the partner is also claiming a qualifying disability benefit. Apologies if I’m not correct. 
    I don’’t think it makes any difference even though on legacy benefits they would have got a double SDP.

    Found this
    https://askcpag.org.uk/content/206411/the-new-transitional-sdp-element
    There are two conditions that must be met by the claimant, or each of the joint claimants, for a transitional SDP element to be included in the calculation of the UC award.

    The first condition is that the UC award was not made as a consequence of the claimant becoming a member of a couple with someone already entitled to a UC award.
    I haven’t got the energy to track through the legislative background at the moment!


    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,582 Disability Gamechanger
    Thanks Calcotti, I did see that CPAG link after my last comment here as I looked myself but didn’t get chance to post. 
    No need to find the legislation. Again my apologies for giving incorrect information! 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • charlotte84
    charlotte84 Community member Posts: 95 Connected
    Thankyou all for your extremely helpful comments @calcotti @poppy123456
    so if me and my partner are both on pip he currently gets Lwrca and we both don’t have a carer can any of us claim Sdp. x
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,582 Disability Gamechanger
    Thankyou all for your extremely helpful comments @calcotti @poppy123456
    so if me and my partner are both on pip he currently gets Lwrca and we both don’t have a carer can any of us claim Sdp. x
    Unfortunately not because it doesn't exist when claiming UC and as your partner already claims this, you'll need to claim it if you live together. This will then end any Income Related ESA after 2 weeks.

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.

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