ULEZ Charge

Jon1964
Jon1964 Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
edited January 2023 in Transport and travel
In August 2023 the ULEZ is expanding to my area unfortunately my car which is diesel Registered in 2015 and still under finance  doesn’t meet the requirements so will cost me £12-50 a day, is there anything I can do?to either cut the cost, I’m currently on PIP standard rate mobility and standard for living any help would be appreciated.
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    I think for some areas there's an exemption for disabled drivers who's vehicles are registered as disabled tax class will be exempt until Oct 2025 but for this you need Enhanced mobility PIP. I've tried searching for other help offered but sadly can't find anything that will help.
  • Jon1964
    Jon1964 Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Thanks I also have searched but I’m going round in circles maybe I should contact the finance company to discuss what could be done.
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    edited January 2023
    This sounds really frustrating @Jon1964. Never easy to feel like you're going round in circles.

    Have you been able to contact the finance company yet and, if so, how has this gone for you?

    Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else we can do to support you with this  :)
  • john_taylor
    john_taylor Scope Member Posts: 24 Connected
    It looks like blue badge holders are exempt in some congestion charges. Just I’ve found this: https://www.bluebadgecompany.co.uk/pages/entertainment-and-travel and for tolls: https://www.gov.uk/toll-concessions
  • Jon1964
    Jon1964 Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I contacted TFL about the grace period they give to Blue Badge holders who receive 100% Road Tax, they can have exemption till October 2027 but know they have extended that to Blue Badge holders receiving 50% car tax the same grace period so I have applied and waiting on DVLA.
  • freshwaterlilly
    freshwaterlilly Online Community Member Posts: 43 Connected
    Interesting there is not much information on this grace period 
    my understanding is if you get attendance allowance higher rate and you have a blue badge 
    you can apply on TFL website and you meet the criteria 
    not so if you get higher rate of pip and a blue badge 
    which is totally ridiculous as they are both the same 
    so in effect if your retired get a state pension and receive pip you don’t get the mobility component neither do you get get mobility component if your on attendance allowance 
    so what’s the difference? Anyone!


  • SteveE
    SteveE Online Community Member Posts: 89 Empowering
    I think for some areas there's an exemption for disabled drivers who's vehicles are registered as disabled tax class will be exempt until Oct 2025 but for this you need Enhanced mobility PIP. I've tried searching for other help offered but sadly can't find anything that will help.
    I've been using the TfL webpage https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/discounts-and-exemptions which spells out their grace period rules, some types of exemption require an application (exemption is not automatic for some),

    It looks that after 25 October 2027 charges will apply to most people, who might be granted a grace period, if their vehicle does not meet TfL's view of acceptable emission standards.

    We are not in a position to purchase a new diesel/petrol WAV, and the cost of an electric WAV (and required infrastructure) is in the realms of ridiculous (let alone limits on range). So we're kinda stuck with a 2013 diesel WAV with no apparent help from the very authorities bringing in these charges and changes.

    Hope the link above helps.

    Steve






     
  • SteveE
    SteveE Online Community Member Posts: 89 Empowering
    Update: Pleased to hear today about improved 'scrappage' offers for Londoners. Nothing like what is needed but help nonetheless. (We are not Londoners so can't expect help, but why does handing over £12.50 help the Children of London who will still get a lungful of our nasty pollution? We guess we are not wanted there.) 
  • freshwaterlilly
    freshwaterlilly Online Community Member Posts: 43 Connected
    He’s so considerate is Mr Khan 
    did everyone know that if you get the £2000  scrappage  that will be taken into account if you get means tested benefits read the small print and of course you will be penalised and it will affect your money surprise surprise not! This is for rich people to rob poor people nothing more 

  • Steve_in_The_City
    Steve_in_The_City Scope Member Posts: 776 Trailblazing
    Something has to be done about traffic pollution and I am in support of ULEZ. I live in Central London and traffic pollution is the pits. It made me seriously ill and I had to give up my business, so I for one know first hand just how serious these issues are. I also know that many journeys that drivers make can be made on public transport, but they chose to drive and don't care about the long-term consequences.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    I also know that many journeys that drivers make can be made on public transport, but they chose to drive and don't care about the long-term consequences.

    I'm all for EV vehicles but with public transport being as bad as it is, i can't blame anyone for not wanting to use it. Even more so for disabled people.

    I've said this before and i'll say it again, i don't have a driveway and the same applies to many others too. It's not as easy or as cheap as some people claim it is to use public chargers. I will be sticking with my self charging hybrid until a solution is made for those that don't have driveways.
  • freshwaterlilly
    freshwaterlilly Online Community Member Posts: 43 Connected
    Nono one is saying we shouldn’t have clean air what we should have is a fair system for everyone not just people who have the resources to just go buy another car 
    most people have old cars because they can’t afford a newer one
    if people can’t afford to buy another car/van lots of people will lose their jobs then have no money have to use food banks and then lose their home 
    that’s a really far system isn’t it
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    A charging hub is still not the answer for those that don't have drive ways. The cost of living is already through the roof and i for one am not prepared to pay more to charge a vehicle than i do for fuel.
  • SteveE
    SteveE Online Community Member Posts: 89 Empowering
    woodbine said:
    The sooner every city has ULEZ the better.
    Maybe so. But how would we get about? Can't use bus/train/taxi cos wheelchair "too big". Can't afford electric WAV.  Any ideas?
  • kikidee
    kikidee Online Community Member Posts: 10 Connected
    I am in need of a second hand car...if I purchase one now can I apply for the grace period as I am disabled or do I have to already own the vehicle before the ulez rules began?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    kikidee said:
    I am in need of a second hand car...if I purchase one now can I apply for the grace period as I am disabled or do I have to already own the vehicle before the ulez rules began?

    Being disabled doesn't automatically exempt you from the charge. You can see the criteria here. https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/discounts-and-exemptions if you qualify then it doesn't matter when you bought the vehicle.

  • kikidee
    kikidee Online Community Member Posts: 10 Connected
    Thanks Polly 🙂 much 👍
  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,396 Championing
    There is a really  annoying  person who lives down the road, who thinks it's OK to have a electric cable running on an extension lead from his flat, across the path, to charge his car.  Trip hazard waiting to happen. 

    Public transport is not cheap, it's 4.50 for one day on the bus where I live. Often not turning up, or I have waited an hour for one to come. They also don't run after a certain time at night and 1 an hour on a sunday.  If you have to change bus company on your journey, you pay again. Trains more on top.  Not to mention safety once your on it, with other passengers. 
    Now add people with mobility problems and sight problems and someone with pushchairs with children and babies, to make it harder.
    I rang for a taxi to go to an appointment the other day, wanted it for 3pm, no taxis until 3.30. 

    My daughter pays the ulez every time she has to go out. Diesel  car that the gov promoted  once.
    Lots of flaws with electric cars, at the moment, charging points for one.





  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    edited October 2023
    It's honestly kind of disgusting, but not a shock, how much car companies pushed diesels as a more "environmentally-friendly" option, and the government jumped on that too. We knew their exhaust was bad for lung health, just legislation hadn't yet caught up. 

    My mum has an electric car and I'm seeing a lot more of them every year. The infrastructure should really have been fully in place by now but it is getting there.
  • honestjon
    honestjon Online Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    When hardly anyone had diesel cars the diesel was a lot cheaper than petrol.
    Now most have diesel cars and the diesel is more expensive than petrol.
    Surprise surprise