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When is PIP backdated from exactly?

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alaskajade1987
alaskajade1987 Community member Posts: 54 Courageous
Hey guys just another question about PIP have my phone assessment tomorrow morning which is making me feel physically sick … HOWEVER I wanted to know if I do get awarded PIP when will the date be backdated from? Is it from the day I made the phone call for the PIP form? Or is it backdated from when  they received my PIP form back ?? I have marked both dates as money is so tight for me and I want to make sure I receive what’s fair… so I rung up the PIP phone line on 14th November 2022… I received my pip form on the 28th of November… so what would be the date they would backdate it from?? Any ideas ?? Thanks in advance you guys have made me feel so much more confident about this process and this website is a godsend ..🙏👍😊

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  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
    edited January 2023
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    It's backdated from the date you ring the DWP to get the process underway, so if you contact them on, e.g. 14th November, then payments will be from that date.

    When you feel stressed, do something you enjoy, make tea, hoover, sing, roll paper throw it into the bin (suitable distance) etc. 

    Make sure you ask to record the assessment first thing, it might help further down the line.

    Good luck, think positive.
  • alaskajade1987
    alaskajade1987 Community member Posts: 54 Courageous
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    Thanks rebel that’s a good idea actually I will ask them to record it for sure… I am praying it’s gonna go fine I feel like I am about to set an exam or my GCSE’s again 😆 I will make a point of letting you guys know how it all goes tomorrow thanks for wishing me well and the tips and the answer to my question! I am so glad stumbled across this site it’s a fantastic place gives you an idea on what is to come 🙏😊 huge thanks again
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 2023
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    You need to ring in advance to ask them to record the assessment. They won’t just record it when you ask on the day. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
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    You need to ring in advance to ask them to record the assessment. They won’t just record it when you ask on the day. 
    Poppy, it's a Telephone Assessment, they won't record it, Alaska will need to gain permission, then record it herself after permission is gained.

  • alaskajade1987
    alaskajade1987 Community member Posts: 54 Courageous
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    Ok I will call in the morning to arrange that thanks for heads up again poppy 🙌🙏
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
    edited January 2023
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    Ok I will call in the morning to arrange that thanks for heads up again poppy 🙌🙏
    You don't need to, as it's a Telephone Assessment, you just need to say to the Assessor, 'I want to record the Assessment, once they say o.k.' start recording, have the phone on loudspeaker and press record'. Download recording software if you need to.

    Carry out a test, to make sure sure the recording works.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    Completely overlooked it's a telephone assessment. Though the assessor will still need to agree to it being recorded. If they don't agree then the assessment will end and you'll need to wait for another appointment.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
    edited January 2023
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    Completely overlooked it's a telephone assessment. Though the assessor will still need to agree to it being recorded. If they don't agree then the assessment will end and you'll need to wait for another appointment.
    Easily done. All the Assessors know the score around 'recordings', they read what you can't do with the recording, then say 'Yes, go ahead'. If they say 'No' I'd be complaining to their 'bosses'. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
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    I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.
    Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.     
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    rebel11 said:
    I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.
    Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.     

    Again that isn't going to get you a PIP award. The Tribunal already know that a lot of assessments are flawed. Once the assessment is done, it's in the past and you should keep it there. Concentrate on the weakness in your evidence.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    calcotti said:
    This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
    Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    calcotti said:
    This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
    Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful. 
    Of course that advice was frequently posted directly in this forum by one of those posters in the past!
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    calcotti said:
    calcotti said:
    This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
    Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful. 
    Of course that advice was frequently posted directly in this forum by one of those posters in the past!
    Indeed, sorely missed! 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
    edited January 2023
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    rebel11 said:
    I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.
    Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.     

    Again that isn't going to get you a PIP award. The Tribunal already know that a lot of assessments are flawed. Once the assessment is done, it's in the past and you should keep it there. Concentrate on the weakness in your evidence.
    You mean they know the PIP system is flawed? these assessment companies don't carry out assessments free, millions are wasted because the DWP can't get an assessment right the first time. Telling the HCP that you want to record the assessment also keeps the HCP 'honest' in their reporting, they are less likely to 'tinker' with the information you have given.  

    The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 56,915 Disability Gamechanger
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    rebel11 said:
    You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

    No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.
    rebel11 said:

    The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely. 

    No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
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    rebel11 said:
    You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

    No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.
    rebel11 said:

    The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely. 

    No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.
    Sorry, this link -  https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    rebel11 said:
    rebel11 said:
    You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

    No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.
    rebel11 said:

    The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely. 

    No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.
    Sorry, this link -  https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/
    Exactly so. As usual a comprehensive analysis by Mike (who used to post regularly here).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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