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When is PIP backdated from exactly?

alaskajade1987

Hey guys just another question about PIP have my phone assessment tomorrow morning which is making me feel physically sick … HOWEVER I wanted to know if I do get awarded PIP when will the date be backdated from? Is it from the day I made the phone call for the PIP form? Or is it backdated from when they received my PIP form back ?? I have marked both dates as money is so tight for me and I want to make sure I receive what’s fair… so I rung up the PIP phone line on 14th November 2022… I received my pip form on the 28th of November… so what would be the date they would backdate it from?? Any ideas ?? Thanks in advance you guys have made me feel so much more confident about this process and this website is a godsend ..🙏👍😊

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rebel11

It's backdated from the date you ring the DWP to get the process underway, so if you contact them on, e.g. 14th November, then payments will be from that date.

When you feel stressed, do something you enjoy, make tea, hoover, sing, roll paper throw it into the bin (suitable distance) etc.

Make sure you ask to record the assessment first thing, it might help further down the line.

Good luck, think positive.

alaskajade1987

Thanks rebel that’s a good idea actually I will ask them to record it for sure… I am praying it’s gonna go fine I feel like I am about to set an exam or my GCSE’s again 😆 I will make a point of letting you guys know how it all goes tomorrow thanks for wishing me well and the tips and the answer to my question! I am so glad stumbled across this site it’s a fantastic place gives you an idea on what is to come 🙏😊 huge thanks again

poppy123456

You need to ring in advance to ask them to record the assessment. They won’t just record it when you ask on the day.

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

You need to ring in advance to ask them to record the assessment. They won’t just record it when you ask on the day.

Poppy, it's a Telephone Assessment, they won't record it, Alaska will need to gain permission, then record it herself after permission is gained.

alaskajade1987

Ok I will call in the morning to arrange that thanks for heads up again poppy 🙌🙏

rebel11

alaskajade1987 said:

Ok I will call in the morning to arrange that thanks for heads up again poppy 🙌🙏

You don't need to, as it's a Telephone Assessment, you just need to say to the Assessor, 'I want to record the Assessment, once they say o.k.' start recording, have the phone on loudspeaker and press record'. Download recording software if you need to.

Carry out a test, to make sure sure the recording works.

poppy123456

Completely overlooked it's a telephone assessment. Though the assessor will still need to agree to it being recorded. If they don't agree then the assessment will end and you'll need to wait for another appointment.

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

Completely overlooked it's a telephone assessment. Though the assessor will still need to agree to it being recorded. If they don't agree then the assessment will end and you'll need to wait for another appointment.

Easily done. All the Assessors know the score around 'recordings', they read what you can't do with the recording, then say 'Yes, go ahead'. If they say 'No' I'd be complaining to their 'bosses'.

poppy123456

I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.

Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.

calcotti

This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

poppy123456

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.

Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.

Again that isn't going to get you a PIP award. The Tribunal already know that a lot of assessments are flawed. Once the assessment is done, it's in the past and you should keep it there. Concentrate on the weakness in your evidence.

poppy123456

calcotti said:

This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful.

calcotti

poppy123456 said:

calcotti said:

This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful.

Of course that advice was frequently posted directly in this forum by one of those posters in the past!

poppy123456

calcotti said:

poppy123456 said:

calcotti said:

This following discussion between professional benefits adviser highlights why worrying about the content of an assessment report is largely a waste of effort.
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

Just finished off reading that thread. Some great examples in there of anecdotal evidence. As well as detailed explanations of why concentrating on assessment reports isn’t helpful.

Of course that advice was frequently posted directly in this forum by one of those posters in the past!

Indeed, sorely missed!

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

I would personally prefer to concentrate on the assessment. A recording isn't going to get anyone a PIP award.

Correct, recording itself won't, but when the Assessor writes the 'weaselly' report, you can listen back to the recording and give an explanation / reasoning (in the Mandatory Reconsideration / Appeal) as to what you meant to say and that it's been misinterpreted by the Assessor.

Again that isn't going to get you a PIP award. The Tribunal already know that a lot of assessments are flawed. Once the assessment is done, it's in the past and you should keep it there. Concentrate on the weakness in your evidence.

You mean they know the PIP system is flawed? these assessment companies don't carry out assessments free, millions are wasted because the DWP can't get an assessment right the first time. Telling the HCP that you want to record the assessment also keeps the HCP 'honest' in their reporting, they are less likely to 'tinker' with the information you have given.

The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely.

poppy123456

rebel11 said:

You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.

rebel11 said:

The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely.

No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.

rebel11 said:

The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely.

No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.

Sorry, this link - https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

calcotti

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

You mean they know the PIP system is flawed?

No, i didn't mean that. I meant that some reports are flawed.

rebel11 said:

The last paragraph in post at 13 JANUARY 2023, 12:46 PM, sums things up nicely.

No idea which paragraph that is because this thread wasn't started until 17th Jan.

Sorry, this link - https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18915/

Exactly so. As usual a comprehensive analysis by Mike (who used to post regularly here).